Starfall- 2 or 3 plus targets?

[Marksman12]

Hey, simple question. I see people saying use it with 2 targets and use it only when there is 3+. Is there a definite answer?

[xtramuscle]

Read the 15 starfall threads already ont he forums instead of making yet another one

It depends on gear, for some itll be 3+ solar 2+ lunar.

For those with better gear it'll be whenever there is 2+ in any eclipse.

[lappee]

It depends on gear, for some itll be 3+ solar 2+ lunar.

For those with better gear it'll be whenever there is 2+ in any eclipse.

Quite the contrary, as your mastery gets higher your starfall gets worse in solar compared to starsurge

[Revolutions]

Quite the contrary, as your mastery gets higher your starfall gets worse in solar compared to starsurge

#logicbomb

[xtramuscle]

Quite the contrary, as your mastery gets higher your starfall gets worse in solar compared to starsurge

I'd love to see some numbers behind this. Ofc better gear doesn't always mean more mastery (alot of ppl will be dropping HM gear with mastery for BRF gear without to get 4set) and it only really effects anything when there is exactly 2 targets in solar eclipse, as 1 target is always starsurge and 3+ is always starfall regardless of eclipse.

[Lericus]

I'd love to see some numbers behind this. Ofc better gear doesn't always mean more mastery (alot of ppl will be dropping HM gear with mastery for BRF gear without to get 4set) and it only really effects anything when there is exactly 2 targets in solar eclipse, as 1 target is always starsurge and 3+ is always starfall regardless of eclipse.

Without actually doing numbers, its still intuitive that Starfall gets worse in solar compared to Starsurge with more mastery. This is because Starfall gets very little mastery bonus in solar eclipse while Starsurge and 3 empowered Wraths gain much more bonus damage. Especially with the ~4 seconds you spend at solar peak where Starfall gets 0 benefit from mastery. The more mastery you have, the more noticeable this difference.

[lappee]

I'd love to see some numbers behind this. Ofc better gear doesn't always mean more mastery (alot of ppl will be dropping HM gear with mastery for BRF gear without to get 4set) and it only really effects anything when there is exactly 2 targets in solar eclipse, as 1 target is always starsurge and 3+ is always starfall regardless of eclipse.

Its common sense, Starsurge gains from Solar eclipse while Starfall doesnt.
Also crit and multistrike behave the same way with both of the spells, so they dont affect the transition point in any way.
Haste on the other hand does affect it, mostly favouring Starsurge over Starfall.