Damage reduction for Shadowfel Burst (Archimonde HC)

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Hello all. I am a restoration druid and I was wondering if I would be able to solo soak "Shadowfel burst" from Archimonde.
According to the Dungeon Journal the ability does 653.400 damage (in heroic difficulty). This means that if I use both Barskin and Ironbark when I get it (40% damage reduction total) the damage I get would be 392.040. Since (buffed) I have 404.000 health that means that I should be able to (barely) solo this ability (as long as I am in full health). However, since normally damage reduction does not work for falling damage I am not 100% this strategy will work... has anybody tested something like this? (using damage reduction NOT immunity).
Thanks in advance.

[meroko]

Hello all. I am a restoration druid and I was wondering if I would be able to solo soak "Shadowfel burst" from Archimonde.
According to the Dungeon Journal the ability does 653.400 damage (in heroic difficulty). This means that if I use both Barskin and Ironbark when I get it (40% damage reduction total) the damage I get would be 392.040. Since (buffed) I have 404.000 health that means that I should be able to (barely) solo this ability (as long as I am in full health). However, since normally damage reduction does not work for falling damage I am not 100% this strategy will work... has anybody tested something like this? (using damage reduction NOT immunity).
Thanks in advance.

It's not falling damage so your theory is correct, however I wouldn't bother since you're nearly killing yourself. Stick with soaking it, it's not even hard anyway.

[Ellesarr]

First of all thats not how math works 20% + 20% is not 40% more like 36% or something. + its really not needed. If you want to play smart displacebeast into melee or something

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So what you are saying is that the second 20% damage reduction does not apply over the "original damage" but over the reminding 80% so actually using two 20% would actually make the damage you take 80% * 80% = 64% of the original damage? Can somebody confirm that this is how "stacking damage reductions" work? I always assumed each one was always over the original damage tbh.

Edit: Extra question: If I do displacement beast to where nobody is, do I still get the damage?

[Deja Thoris]

So what you are saying is that the second 20% damage reduction does not apply over the "original damage" but over the reminding 80% so actually using two 20% would actually make the damage you take 80% * 80% = 64% of the original damage? Can somebody confirm that this is how "stacking damage reductions" work? I always assumed each one was always over the original damage tbh.

Of course it works like that, otherwise 5x 20% Dr's would be an immunity which would be stupid.

It's really easy to soak and its the best way to do it imo.

[Deleted]

Yes, of course soaking it (with more players) is the intended mechanic. I just was wondering if it was possible to cheese it with damage reductions (which apparently is possible but 36% is not enough in my case) so the other ranged players can just keep DPS'ing as they would if a Hunter or Mage got affected.
Can displacer beast be used to "negate" the damage or would I still get it? (distributed with people that may be around me when I land).

[Deja Thoris]

Yes, of course soaking it (with more players) is the intended mechanic. I just was wondering if it was possible to cheese it with damage reductions (which apparently is possible but 36% is not enough in my case) so the other ranged players can just keep DPS'ing as they would if a Hunter or Mage got affected.
Can displacer beast be used to "negate" the damage or would I still get it? (distributed with people that may be around me when I land).

You'd still get it. If you displacer on to one person you'll kill them as well.

[Deleted]

Okey. So until I get a bit more health I can either try to Displacer Beast to melee (which is risky as hell since I have to make sure I am at the exact distance when I spread) or just soak it normally with the rest of ranged... I will stick to the intended mechanic for now then.
Thanks to everybody for all the useful information :-).

[Dracodraco]

Okey. So until I get a bit more health I can either try to Displacer Beast to melee (which is risky as hell since I have to make sure I am at the exact distance when I spread) or just soak it normally with the rest of ranged... I will stick to the intended mechanic for now then.
Thanks to everybody for all the useful information :-).

Never displacer beast or blink. It tends to completly bug shit out and kill people occasionally, even if done "right"

[Makarena]

just smokebomb under boss and reduce dmg by 100% (unless hotfixed this wednesday).

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just smokebomb under boss and reduce dmg by 100% (unless hotfixed this wednesday).

What do you mean exactly by "smokebomb under boss"? :S.

[Makarena]

step1: boss starts casting shadowfel burst.
step2: rogue pops smokebomb in the center of his hitbox.
step3: no purple voidzones appear and no dmg is done.

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it's a rogue cooldown...

if your raid has one...that time would be a good time for the rogue to use it..

[Deleted]

Unfortunately rogue is the ONE class my guild raid team lacks (and is trying to recruit asap) :P. I will take it into consideration if we do get one in the near future.

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The damage shown in the dungeon journal usually scales with your versatility and with the number of players in the raid. Make sure to recheck inside before getting killed.

[blargh312]

Yes, of course soaking it (with more players) is the intended mechanic. I just was wondering if it was possible to cheese it with damage reductions (which apparently is possible but 36% is not enough in my case) so the other ranged players can just keep DPS'ing as they would if a Hunter or Mage got affected.
Can displacer beast be used to "negate" the damage or would I still get it? (distributed with people that may be around me when I land).

Ranged are gonna need to stack after shadowfel anyway for allure so there isn't really a point to cheesing it like this.