Who controls Azeroth zones now?

[Beloren]

Okay, this might be a bit of prediction, but based on all the information that has happened since cataclysm, right onto the onset of Legion, who's running the various different zones back on Azeroth who won?

e.g. imo: Now that Theramore is destroyed:
Southern Barrens, Northren Barrens, Dust Swallaw Marsh and Thousand Needles = 100% Horde

Since the sacking of Orgrimmar:
Ashenvale, Stonetalon Mountain and Azshara are 100% Night Elf even though the war had left stonetalon at a stalemate, ashenvale largely night elf (as the alliance hero undid the horde heroes victories), Azshara horde, but the treaty had the horde troops withdraw from Azshara, Ashenvale and Stonetalon.

Feralas = Night elf: While both have quests to clear the area of threats, Feralas has a massive night elf military stronghold compared to an expedition force of the horde at stonemaul, furthermore the Highborne are the claimers of Dire Maul, as they quest you (horde or alliance) to help them regain their city. I don't think the horde would feasibly win that zone.

Desolace = Night elf Cenarion Circle - Nijels point got seriously battered, it was the only military stronghold for the faction, or in fact any faction in the zone, but after the firestorm in Furien's revenge, I don't think it was destroyed, just severly weakened, it won't be any stronger than Ghostwalker post or Shadowsprey Village, neither of which are military strongholds but just villages. So it stands to reason the Cenarion Circle, lead by the Tauren Kuran, but night elf dominated runs that zone fostering the regrowth.. the Centaur tribes are completely decimated, and whiles they survive, they do not control, the Cenarion circle unlike the horde or alliance don't tend to rule people, they just nurture the land.

Felwood, Moonglade, Hyjal, Winterspring = Night elf Cenarion Circle - night elves may claim the land as their own, but they do not control it as part of the alliance, but as the cenarion circle, that land is pretty much run by them. There is no horde or alliance missions of conquest that seem to succeed at all.

Western & EAstern Palguelands -


What are your opinions on the rest of the lands there

[Deleted]

Since the sacking of Orgrimmar
the treaty had the horde troops withdraw from Azshara, Ashenvale and Stonetalon.

Why can't this be shown ingame? Put an Alliance occupation force into Orgrimmar and remove all the Horde and Goblin stuff from Azshara.

[R41den]

Why can't this be shown ingame? Put an Alliance occupation force into Orgrimmar and remove all the Horde and Goblin stuff from Azshara.

they had their TROOPS withdraw from azshara, not the whole civilization there.

[Gimlix]

Why can't this be shown ingame? Put an Alliance occupation force into Orgrimmar and remove all the Horde and Goblin stuff from Azshara.

To much work sadly.

As much work it takes to repair Stormwind. Which is apperently costing them more then 5 years :/

[Deleted]

Okay, this might be a bit of prediction, but based on all the information that has happened since cataclysm, right onto the onset of Legion, who's running the various different zones back on Azeroth who won?

e.g. imo: Now that Theramore is destroyed:
Southern Barrens, Northren Barrens, Dust Swallaw Marsh and Thousand Needles = 100% Horde

Since the sacking of Orgrimmar:
Ashenvale, Stonetalon Mountain and Azshara are 100% Night Elf even though the war had left stonetalon at a stalemate, ashenvale largely night elf (as the alliance hero undid the horde heroes victories), Azshara horde, but the treaty had the horde troops withdraw from Azshara, Ashenvale and Stonetalon.

Feralas = Night elf: While both have quests to clear the area of threats, Feralas has a massive night elf military stronghold compared to an expedition force of the horde at stonemaul, furthermore the Highborne are the claimers of Dire Maul, as they quest you (horde or alliance) to help them regain their city. I don't think the horde would feasibly win that zone.

Desolace = Night elf Cenarion Circle - Nijels point got seriously battered, it was the only military stronghold for the faction, or in fact any faction in the zone, but after the firestorm in Furien's revenge, I don't think it was destroyed, just severly weakened, it won't be any stronger than Ghostwalker post or Shadowsprey Village, neither of which are military strongholds but just villages. So it stands to reason the Cenarion Circle, lead by the Tauren Kuran, but night elf dominated runs that zone fostering the regrowth.. the Centaur tribes are completely decimated, and whiles they survive, they do not control, the Cenarion circle unlike the horde or alliance don't tend to rule people, they just nurture the land.

Felwood, Moonglade, Hyjal, Winterspring = Night elf Cenarion Circle - night elves may claim the land as their own, but they do not control it as part of the alliance, but as the cenarion circle, that land is pretty much run by them. There is no horde or alliance missions of conquest that seem to succeed at all.

Western & EAstern Palguelands -


What are your opinions on the rest of the lands there

Sorry but your opinions are a whole load of nonsense. Tauren have the same right to Feralas as much as those pesky hippie night elves. They have a base there. The orcish military still remains in all of the above areas, so no, they don't belong to those cocky , focky night elves. If they did, orcs would not be there. Yes, winterspring, felwood, hyjal has little horde outposts, not enough to warrant control. The territories are disputed, if you look them up on wowpedia.

So no, I don't agree with you on the above, but on some points I agree. Also, Orgrimmar wasn't sacked by the alliance, as in sacked, you just defeated garrosh. we both did. doesnt mean you own the city, lol keep dreaming, ally doggy

[Deleted]

Wait, doesn't Tyrande say after you defeat Garrosh that they would give Azshara to the goblins while she doubts that this is going to satisfie them for long the way goblins chew through resources?

Sorry but your opinions are a whole load of nonsense. Tauren have the same right to Feralas as much as those pesky hippie night elves. They have a base there. The orcish military still remains in all of the above areas, so no, they don't belong to those cocky , focky night elves. If they did, orcs would not be there. Yes, winterspring, felwood, hyjal has little horde outposts, not enough to warrant control. The territories are disputed, if you look them up on wowpedia.

So no, I don't agree with you on the above, but on some points I agree. Also, Orgrimmar wasn't sacked by the alliance, as in sacked, you just defeated garrosh. we both did. doesnt mean you own the city, lol keep dreaming, ally doggy

Cram your spite elsewhere and don't even start with claim or right. Horde has none aside from Bloodelves and Tauren.

[Maxilian]

Wait, doesn't Tyrande say after you defeat Garrosh that they would give Azshara to the goblins while she doubts that this is going to satisfie them for long the way goblins chew through resources?

Azshara is still horde, but the Horde took out its military forces (you know, to stop the conflict in Ashenvale)

[ravenmoon]

Azshara is still horde, but the Horde took out its military forces (you know, to stop the conflict in Ashenvale)

wouldn't that instead simply mean that horde goblins still live in Azshara, just military functions gone, which means that Talendris point, furbolgs and night elf presences would have returned to the region.

i mean think of it realistically, your enemy subverted and launched an attack on your territory, you tried to defend it and were in retreat until you disposed of their leader and sieged their capital successfully

you may not destroy their cities, but you certainly won't leave the zone unprotected.

Likely with horde troops with drawn from your teerritory, you may not destroy the goblin city in the middle, but you'd certainly bring in a strong miliatry presence and ensure the your people start occupying it again.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I this only about Kalim? But yea Horde conrols the Barrens durotar and Aszhara for sure Night elves has ashenvale, will the night elves continue to share Ferals with the Tauren? Idk.

[Maxilian]

wouldn't that instead simply mean that horde goblins still live in Azshara, just military functions gone, which means that Talendris point, furbolgs and night elf presences would have returned to the region.

i mean think of it realistically, your enemy subverted and launched an attack on your territory, you tried to defend it and were in retreat until you disposed of their leader and sieged their capital successfully

you may not destroy their cities, but you certainly won't leave the zone unprotected.

Likely with horde troops with drawn from your teerritory, you may not destroy the goblin city in the middle, but you'd certainly bring in a strong miliatry presence and ensure the your people start occupying it again.

But the Night elves have no intention on re occupying Azshara, as Tyrande said, Aszhara is going to be left to the horde (the goblins to be more precise), is most likely that the Night Elves militarized the borders of Ashenvale

[Friendlyimmolation]

Eastern kingdoms wise, Blood elves 100% own Quel Thalas, Epl still contested western Plagulands has had all Alliance Presence removed and is Forsaken Controlled aside from the Argent Crusade, The Forsaken own Silverpine and Hillsbarad and I think the ultimate Visual guide said Gilnaes was burnt rubble and is contested.

[Maxilian]

Eastern kingdoms wise, Blood elves 100% own Quel Thalas, Epl still contested western Plagulands has had all Alliance Presence removed and is Forsaken Controlled aside from the Argent Crusade, The Forsaken own Silverpine and Hillsbarad and I think the ultimate Visual guide said Gilnaes was burnt rubble and is contested.

-Arathi Highlands is mostly Forsaken territory (with a small alliance outpost)
-Hinterlands is mostly Alliance territory (thanks to the Wildhammer clan) -the horde have a bigger presence than before thanks to the Forsaken, but not as much as the dwarfs-
-Western Plaguelands is mostly horde (but Hearthglen is also there -neutral faction-)

[Deleted]

Feralas, Ashenvale and Stonetalon are clearly under Alliance. Both Barrens are probably Horde, as is Duskwallow more likely. Feral as is Alliance dominated, Horde have only a small outpost there while night elves have a giant military base, the Highbourne from and around Dire Maul and a few outposts. Glineas is Alliance. Azshara is Horde. Winterspring Alliance, most likely Felwood too.

[Deleted]

Doesn't really matter who owns Felwood now, that place is ruined anyway.

[Pandragon]

Why can't this be shown ingame? Put an Alliance occupation force into Orgrimmar and remove all the Horde and Goblin stuff from Azshara.

Because there is no real reason to revamp those zones atm. Once we start doing stuff with them again they will probably be changed to reflect things.

To much work sadly.

As much work it takes to repair Stormwind. Which is apperently costing them more then 5 years :/

god i wish you ppl would stfu about this,. There is 0 reason to repair the stupid park. It was wiped out because there was nothing there to do. None of you even cared about it or acknowledged it until it was wiped out. Now its life or death that it gets fixed.

[RobertMugabe]

Because there is no real reason to revamp those zones atm. Once we start doing stuff with them again they will probably be changed to reflect things.



god i wish you ppl would stfu about this,. There is 0 reason to repair the stupid park. It was wiped out because there was nothing there to do. None of you even cared about it or acknowledged it until it was wiped out. Now its life or death that it gets fixed.

I didn't care about the park... but I do care about stormwind being still partially destroyed...

[KyrtF]

IMO...

Alliance....Dustwallow, Southern Barrens. Yes...Theramore destroyed but the Alliance counter attack rolled right back into the Barrens.


Horde...Northern Barrens, Durotar and Thousand Needles

Alliance also get Ashenvale, Stonetalon Mountain, Azshara, Feralas, Desolace, Felwood, Moonglade, Hyjal, Winterspring and Silithus.

Un'goro and Tanaris aren't held by anyone but should probably be snapped up by the Horde. Uldum is neutral and held by the Tol'vir.

That should cover most of Kalimdor...

In the EK...most of it south of the bridge will be held by the Alliance....with Stranglethorn going to the Trolls. North....the Plaguelands are held mainly by the Scourge, Arathi and (likely)Gilneas are Alliance, the Hinterlands are spilt between Alliance and NPC trolls and the rest is Horde.

Yes...this does give the Alliance most of the land but they are the established power, the superpower. Its supposed to be that way.

[ravenmoon]

That's just two continents:

There's Northrend
There's Pandaria
There's South Seas
There's Broken Isles


each of those land masses are kinda huge. Although we don't have a south seas map... Panderia and Northrend and Broken Isles, together are bigger than Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms combined

There's also Outland
There's AU Draenor

Here is how I'd expand it:

Blood elves take and restore Eastern and Western Plaguelands, Netherstorm in addition to Sunstrider Isle, Eversong Woods, Ghostlands, Hinterlands =7
Forsaken move into Hillsbrad, Alterac, Arathi, Howling Fjord, Dragonblight, Icecrown, Trisifal, Lordarmere, Silverpine,=9
Orcs = durotar, northern barrens, dustswallow marsh, Borean Tundra, Coldarra, Sholazaar Basin, Wintergrasp, Nagrand, Hellfire Peninsualr, Blade's Edge Mountain = 10
Horde Panderans - Twolong Steppes, Karassang Highlands, Jade Forest, Kun-Lai Summit, Valley of the 4 winds, Vale of Eternaml Blossoms, Dead Wastes =7
Tauren - High Mountain, Mulgore, Southern Barrens, Thousand Needles, East Dragonblight Taunka, Borean Tundra Taunka =6
Trolls - Stranglethorn Vale, Stranglethorn Cape, Echo Isles, South Sea zone 1 (tbc), South sea zone 2, South sea zone 3 =6
Goblins - Kezan, Lost Isles, Azshara, Tanaris, city states all over the world =5
=44 zones

Night Elves - Surammar, Azsuna, Val'sharah, Teldrassil, Darkshore, Ashenvale, Stonetalon Mountains, Desolace, Feralas, Felwood, Moonglade, Hyjal, Winterspring, Azshara? =14
Worgen - Gilneas =1
Humans - Elwyn Forest, Westfall, Redrige, Darkshire, Deadwind Pass, Swamp of Sorrows, Blasted Lands, Burning Steppes. Stormhelm =9
Dwarves - Dun Morogh, Loch Modan, Wetlands, Twilight Highlands, Badlands, Searing Gorge, Burning Steppes, Storm Peaks=8
Gnomes - Gnomeragan =1
Draenei - Azuremyst, Bloodmyst, Zangarmarsh, Terokkar Forest, Shadowmoon Valley, most of Argus (tbc) =6
=44

[Deleted]

god i wish you ppl would stfu about this,. There is 0 reason to repair the stupid park. It was wiped out because there was nothing there to do. None of you even cared about it or acknowledged it until it was wiped out. Now its life or death that it gets fixed.

I could bring that argument for most parts of most cities. For example, what do you do in the Valley of Honor in Orgrimmar? ... well... nothing. So then it could have been razed to show the effects of a war, could it have not? Yet it wasn't. We only demand the same thing for Stormwind, an intact and acceptable looking city. One having a hole in flames is not that.