[Discussion] New Heirloom Trinkets vs Mythic Hellfire Citadel Trinkets

[stym]

I think a whole expansion of demons raises a bigger flag then four bosses. Which, is pretty hard to deny.

There's no doubt that leveling was the primary goal for those trinkets. That was also the primary goal for the Garrosh heirlooms, yet they were contenders in SoO, especially for alts. The game designers just didn't mind the added benefit in HFC, so much so they expanded those in a hotfix.

By the way I don't think the hotfixing of the Agility trinket is driven by HFC concerns, but rather by imbalance with the other DPS trinkets.

[Dracodraco]

There's no doubt that leveling was the primary goal for those trinkets. That was also the primary goal for the Garrosh heirlooms, yet they were contenders in SoO, especially for alts. The game designers just didn't mind the added benefit in HFC, so much so they expanded those in a hotfix.

By the way I don't think the hotfixing of the Agility trinket is driven by HFC concerns, but rather by imbalance with the other DPS trinkets.

The heirlooms were actually BiS due to double sockets unless you lucked out and got a warforged wep - not just "contenders".
That being said, I see no issue with getting "decent" items from outside the raids at this point.

[Deleted]

That being said, I see no issue with getting "decent" items from outside the raids at this point.

Because only your guild matters. :P

[Drish]

Because only your guild matters. :P

Unsure what this means. Hes stating hes happy non raiders can get powerful items (people not in his guild)

[Dracodraco]

Unsure what this means. Hes stating hes happy non raiders can get powerful items (people not in his guild)

He probably means that the only reason I do not care is because my guild has already cleared everything.
Which is part of it, but another part is that content has been nerfed to an extreme degree already with the Ilvl increase. Not bothered that people can get decent trinkets from running mythic dungeons when the Ilvl thing has a much bigger impact.

[Deleted]

Not a single one of you thought about the fact, that Hyjal Archimonde is a demon and it may have just been a mistake making the new one humanoid? Really?

[Maxweii]

Not a single one of you thought about the fact, that Hyjal Archimonde is a demon and it may have just been a mistake making the new one humanoid? Really?

No we all somehow missed this fact and didn't think that the technicalities behind what he is could make him either.

[LaplaceNoMa]

There was no real "reason" for them to change it so it was highly unlikely they would. They did though, so good for them, but who cares that people thought otherwise? Oh wait, internet, so it's bad to express an opinion and then it be wrong

If there were no real "reasons", no one would even be able to assume it. Stop pulling a Cartman and publically admit you were arrogant and wrong - same with Dracodraco. Seriously, the damage control is real.

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FYI, just because people disagree with your assumptions and come with logic answers as to why, it does not make them/us bullies.

FYI, this here

They are not useable in raids, just like the void tendril trinket isn't.

Is not 'disagreeing', it's 'stating something as truth'. Another Cartman, just as I said. Pathetic.

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You didn't say 'they probably won't be useable', you said 'they are not useable', stop trying to play on fallacies. Won't fool anybody.

[Bytch]

So, as a DPS Warrior- Arms. Which trink would/should I replace to use the Heirloom trink. Im using a normal Class trink with Heroic Unending Hunger upgraded twice.

[Deleted]

replace the HC hunger.
you want the CS reset from Worldbreaker.

[Deleted]

They are not useable in raids, just like the void tendril trinket isn't.

Dude, near the end of MOP, after the stat squish, during the (Whatever Blizzard Calls) pre patch event for WOD SOO Garrosh on Norm, HC, Mythic dropped Garrosh Heirloom weapon that was fully usable in SOO, with the correct difficulty iLevel, better in fact than weapon drops at that time (Granted Garrosh gave you weapon first time you kill him) so your theory is debunked! Bearing in mind the Legendary Ring has iLevel far greater at max level than any HFC raid tier with 795 iLevel (805 after you use 50 valor) that was done via questline requiring lfr ha ha ha

[Relapses]

Dude, near the end of MOP, after the stat squish, during the (Whatever Blizzard Calls) pre patch event for WOD SOO Garrosh on Norm, HC, Mythic dropped Garrosh Heirloom weapon that was fully usable in SOO, with the correct difficulty iLevel, better in fact than weapon drops at that time (Granted Garrosh gave you weapon first time you kill him) so your theory is debunked! Bearing in mind the Legendary Ring has iLevel far greater at max level than any HFC raid tier with 795 iLevel (805 after you use 50 valor) that was done via questline requiring lfr ha ha ha

Not only did you bump a post that's been inactive almost a month, nearly every single thing you said is hilariously wrong. You know what...

[Maxweii]

Not only did you bump a post that's been inactive almost a month, nearly every single thing you said is hilariously wrong. You know what...

Some people just wana watch a thread burn

[Wilderness]

Dude, near the end of MOP, after the stat squish, during the (Whatever Blizzard Calls) pre patch event for WOD SOO Garrosh on Norm, HC, Mythic dropped Garrosh Heirloom weapon that was fully usable in SOO, with the correct difficulty iLevel, better in fact than weapon drops at that time (Granted Garrosh gave you weapon first time you kill him) so your theory is debunked! Bearing in mind the Legendary Ring has iLevel far greater at max level than any HFC raid tier with 795 iLevel (805 after you use 50 valor) that was done via questline requiring lfr ha ha ha

Probably should double check a lot of that info. Also, this thread is from a month ago, nothing really new or relevant to add to it.