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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Irisel View Post
    The decision to main Resto DRUID is so very very easy this xpac.

    I'm actually thinking about rerolling out of Resto druid. They lost mobility/CC (Cyclone is now a pvp talent, they lost stampeding and incapacitating roar). They also lost instants from NS. Also lost Genesis as a big AoE heal when damage spikes hit (It's now a wierd artifact CD). And now our mastery only works when stacking HoTs. Lost the ability to do some healing while DPsing (It was actually good for 5 mans/when raid damage was low or when you had mana issues)

    It's still fun, we just lost much more than what we gained (Same complaint I see from resto shamans in this thread)

    What we gained: Nothing exciting really, just instant cast WG (PvP talent) Or being able to move while casting tranquility (artifact) and Flourish?...idk, it's all a bit... lackluster.
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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Staryu View Post
    Thats where HTT comes in, and AG/Asc if you talent it. We're lucky to have a few raid CD choices so if you need to use SLT on a tank then its not THAT bad.

    I miss totem projection with SLT, I mean its nice you just automatically can set it, but I did enjoy being able to place it at my feet, then after a couple seconds, throw it to the melee or where ever and share its benefit some if its not 100% stacked up group. Also now sometimes I hit the button and nothing happens, so when my /say macro of "Socialism Totem Down!" is said, but the Totem isnt actually down yet, I look dumb So maybe Im just more mad about the synergy of that macro being messed up more than anything, DONT JUDGE ME
    Yea that is true, I suppose we do have enough raid cd's. I miss totem proj too.... it would have been useful for the windrush totem as well since you will outrange it fairly quickly so being able to move it infront of you would give you another refresh on the buff and cover more distance.


    The joy about a raiding scenario, there is usually at least one other healer and a decent chance they will have a tank cd. Giving shamans a CD as strong as SLT, but for tanks (without costing your raid CD), would be absolutely insane.

    I'm in the same boat about shields though. I get that mana shield was taken from us because of the new mana/spirit changes, but earth shield was given as a pvp only talent? Why?
    True, as a group it won't be bad and it looks like we will be pretty good in raids, esp with our mastery being great for progression.

    I forgot to mention the PVP talents, but they actually look pretty good. They bring a couple of the old unique shaman abilties back too like grounding totem and earth shield, as well as the "beta version" of Spirit Link that they could never get to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunwolf View Post
    I forgot to mention the PVP talents, but they actually look pretty good. They bring a couple of the old unique shaman abilties back too like grounding totem and earth shield, as well as the "beta version" of Spirit Link that they could never get to work.
    I like the pvp talents across several of the healers. It'll probably take me a little bit to get over the saltiness of earth shield/grounding totem being pvp only, though.

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  4. #84
    So for mythic+, I heard a lot of complaints that rsham were especially bad once tidal waves was nerfed.

    However, unless I am missing something on live, tidal waves still gives the 2x charges, and echo of the elements was buffed with a chance to add more riptide charges. This seems (to me), like rsham maintain all of their utility for mythic dungeons while having a relatively high single target throughput from their high uptime on tidal waves (and relatively good spread healing with all the riptide/healing surge healing). That being said, it certainly isn't the most interesting of healing patterns I'll admit, but rsham seem like they will be at minimum viable for mythic+ dungeons, with obvious viability in raids due to mastery + amazing raid CD's.

    So, I plan to roll as rsham for this expansion, and my main holdout was my worry about their mythic+ viability. [And I suppose about the fact that everything is either a CD or seems inferior to simple healing surge spam + tidal waves]...but mostly about their mythic+ viability. I was hoping I could get a confirm/deny from potentially more experienced individuals about rshams viability in mythic+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astraios View Post
    I was hoping I could get a confirm/deny from potentially more experienced individuals about rshams viability in mythic+?
    From beta testing experience and comments from some high ranking streamers, I'd say it depends on what you're wanting. I believe most people are in agreement that resto druid will more than likely be the top pushers, but every healer is "viable" to a certain point. With that being said, I can't imagine rshams being too far behind. Resto druids have other abilities that just make them better, like battle rez and stealth.

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    You have plenty of utility to make mythic+ healing easier on you. Cap totem (lightning surge totem) to aoe stun and give you a moment to heal everyone up/interrupt naughty spells that hurt your group, not very long CD on windshear, AG and Asc for harder trash packs - just to name a few- and whatever the DPS can contribute. As long as you arent just trying to brute force it and actually coordinate handling the trash like in Cata dungeon days, you should be fine on a Rsham.

    Also we have Ancestral Protection Totem now so... theres that >. I also see Earthen Shield Totem make a difference as well. And Ancestral Vigor will help with things that normally would 1 shot ppl.
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  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by TigerTiddles View Post
    From beta testing experience and comments from some high ranking streamers, I'd say it depends on what you're wanting. I believe most people are in agreement that resto druid will more than likely be the top pushers, but every healer is "viable" to a certain point. With that being said, I can't imagine rshams being too far behind. Resto druids have other abilities that just make them better, like battle rez and stealth.
    Do you know something about HPala and how they do in Mythic content? I've read not that much about it.
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    RShamans were always good in HM/Mythic raids. Our mastery is excellent for progression and our CDs are why we are strong. Without them our output would be laughable.

    RDruids seem to be the top healer as usual - I don't know any expansion where they have been on the bottom of the healers. I think RDruids have got the best talents and traits but that's just my opinion.

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