LittleJin, do you just cry about everything and anything? I blocked you on HeroesNexus because of this, and now I am going to have to do the exact same thing here...
LittleJin, do you just cry about everything and anything? I blocked you on HeroesNexus because of this, and now I am going to have to do the exact same thing here...
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Yes, some sort of air form would be nice. In fact I'm surprised that shamans do not have 20% speed bonus like dk and palas. They can become almost wind itself but nnnnopppe
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Shamans don't need a 20% speed bonus because they have a 0 cooldown ability that gives them a 30% speed bonus. If Blizzard gave them a passive 20% boost they'd take away the active 30% boost.
Feral Druids constantly move at 30% speed and fight inside that form, they do not have a cooldown-free active ability that increases their speed further.
Rogues do not have a toggled ability that increases their speed by 30%, nor a passive that boosts their movement speed. At best they can stealth for 20%, which is less than Ghost Wolf and similarly breaks on dealing damage, and then have no passive boost.
Demon Hunters also have neither of those things, nor even analogues, they can just use charge a lot.
None of these things are equivalent to Shamans getting a passive 20% movement speed buff, which then causes Ghost Wolf to either only grant +10% move speed or change to +50%.
Shamans have their movement ability, melee Shamans also have a short cooldown sprint on top of it, and you also have a tier of movement talents to increase mobility even more. They are never going to be given a passive on top of it without losing the ability they already have.
LittleJin constantly spouts ideas from his ass and you probably shouldn't douse yourself in the stream :P
Last edited by Imnick; 2016-02-23 at 10:47 AM.
It bothers me enough that any shaman other than orcs turn into wolves, let alone everyone turning into wind serpents as well.
Orcs = Rylak
Trolls = Wind Serpent
Dwarven = Gryphon
Tauren = Eagle
Goblin/Draenei/Pandaren = whatever
Wondering if you've ever played any of the above classes, or are just being pedantic on the '0 cooldown' aspect. You also repeatedly ignore that ghostwolf negates all form of ability use unlike anything the above classes have (such as sprinting on top of their form, being able to move 30% faster passively in combat, or having various charges / leaps as well as mastery to passively buff their movement speed (at an approx 20-40% in raid gear, using same % values from other classes who don't even favour mastery!), or have a multi-chainable sprint usable both in combat & while stealthed that has a cd lower than the duration - but at least that last ones being removed because the class has OTHER mobility )
I don't feel shamans mobility is bad, but top tier is a complete lie and you either know it yourself or shouldn't be arguing class balance to put it simply. If you want to shut down a silly argument you can do it without resorting to bullshit.
Shaman mobility simply is top tier though. Enhancement especially, as the owner of literally the best sprint in the game.
There is absolutely no way Blizzard would give a movement speed passive to a class that already has so much going for it in the running around department without taking something else away instead, which is not what anyone should want.
Shamans can move 30% faster at any time, have a massive duration fairly short cooldown sprint in their melee spec (who need it most), and also get a dive or a charge from talents (or a group move speed buff). We don't need and won't get anything else on top of that.
To imply otherwise is just ridiculous, as I expect from LittleJin but would hope better of from anyone else.
Yeah you can't attack while in ghost wolf, but if you're a caster you couldn't anyway (because cast times) and if you're melee you couldn't anyway (because melee range) so that's completely irrelevant in most situations. And you're compensated by passively building maelstrom by having the Ghost Wolf buff active, so it's not wasted time anyway.
Last edited by Imnick; 2016-02-23 at 06:31 PM.
Be glad you're getting Gust of Wind on a 15 sec cooldown. With the shaman track record I was expecting something useless.
I hate to throw insults like this but, I can not honestly believe you've raided anything past LFR if you think this is a reasonable argument. Sometimes is all I'll say.
Anyway you ahve a very warped view of ghostwolf and I cannot get over how ridiculous your arguments are. I'm out, you win.
I concur!
The spiritual and mystical aspect of the shaman class is underrepresented in game, IMO. A ghostly flight form akin to our ghostly ground form would be an excellent addition to this wonderful class!