Best Rogue dps spec for legion Raiding / PVE content

[Lustice]

I wanted to know which spec might be the best for legion rogue, because the artifact power cant be transferred or changed once I add it so I want to max out the best option I can first. Although I'm sure this can be subjective to what I enjoy the most but What are your opinions on rogue and its current state in legion with the artifacts?

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I wanted to know which spec might be the best for legion rogue, because the artifact power cant be transferred or changed once I add it so I want to max out the best option I can first. Although I'm sure this can be subjective to what I enjoy the most but What are your opinions on rogue and its current state in legion with the artifacts?

It's looking like outlaw for anything requiring aoe/ more than 4 targets (mythics etc) and pretty close between outlaw and assassin for single target. I'll be playing it safe and going full outlaw and assasin offspec.

[Demeia]

I'll say the same thing. Well, until a mod closes this post since there is about one of these threads a week. Maybe we should have just asked to sticky one...

[Jaronicity]

Outlaw is currently best-in-show for just about everything. Few times I think Assassination can overtake it pre-mythic level gear, but for the most part Outlaw is running the town.

[bigsuirlife]

I am optimistic and I feel that blizzard help our fellow assassin

[Halobob87]

Outlaw for anything but 3 target cleave, in that case assa is better untill mythic gear, after that point, outlaw is always better

[Dracovian]

Isn't Sub stronger than Assassination after the nerf?

[Yhcti]

Outlaw is obviously great due to 30% + 30% for crimson vial. You then have it's easy cleave etc.

I'd have Sub as my go-to build though for general purpose PVE. Shadowstep ambush for your auto attack when in stealth. 3% health every 1sec when in stealth (shadow dance, stealth after vanish, stealth in general) so it seems a no brainer. Sub ST damage seems ridiculous also. So i'll more than likely go Sub/Outlaw for my play in Legion. Outlaw as my main PvE with Sub as my general PvE/off spec..

Though I am tempted to just roll with Sub as my first spec to get the Artifact weapons so I can rock PvE quicker.

does anyone else find assa extremely dull to play? Might just be me. I'm only casual anyway so it's not like I need to min-max sooo... Goblin Sub/Outlaw Rogue it'll be

[Halobob87]

Outlaw is obviously great due to 30% + 30% for crimson vial. You then have it's easy cleave etc.

I'd have Sub as my go-to build though for general purpose PVE. Shadowstep ambush for your auto attack when in stealth. 3% health every 1sec when in stealth (shadow dance, stealth after vanish, stealth in general) so it seems a no brainer. Sub ST damage seems ridiculous also. So i'll more than likely go Sub/Outlaw for my play in Legion. Outlaw as my main PvE with Sub as my general PvE/off spec..

Though I am tempted to just roll with Sub as my first spec to get the Artifact weapons so I can rock PvE quicker.

does anyone else find assa extremely dull to play? Might just be me. I'm only casual anyway so it's not like I need to min-max sooo... Goblin Sub/Outlaw Rogue it'll be

Every one have crimson vial. Btw He's talking about raiding. Anyway for levelling combat is probably better : heroic leap+ stronger aoe and better defensive (parry+ repost damage + lifesteal > dodge)

[Yhcti]

I think it boils down to personal preference. I personally think Sub will be faster/more enjoyable. Stealth shadowstep (ok it's only 15yrds but that's still awesome). Selfheal when in stealth/shadow dance + crimson vial. extremely strong ST burst. Suits me to the bone when PvEing. I'll play Outlaw/Sub all expansion most likely as I find Assassination too dull. Outlaw for 5mans, Sub for everything else... I'll attempt Outlaw first though as it does seem easier in general (group up mobs, blade flurry + riposte and gg)