Didn't we also take Unholy Presence as Frost during Firelands? My Cata memory all runs together, but I definitely remember rocking 2h Frost in Unholy Presence at some point.
FSc spam is the future! Somehow pair it with BoS so we never even have to Frost Strike. Literal one-button spec.
We used Unholy presence because it reduced the GCD down to 1 second. It was OP. Used it as masterfrost and as 2hand frost. Not sure what happened in WoD though, but Cata-MoP for sure.
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Your post quote is acting like they didn't do the same thing to the frost helmet when suddenly the new interactions in Nighthold with the tier and with BoS spec made it mega OP. Like it used to be balanced when it was EN/ToV because, well it didn't work properly on bosses but uh... even if it did, we didn't use Gathering Storm and we didn't take Freezing Fog. Suddenly Breath of Sindragosa becomes OP and we have over 50% uptime on Remorseless and Freezing Fog with all the extra rime procs we were getting made the helm OP and they had to nerf it by 50%.
I don't recall that at all, we were using UP afaik because of the reduced gcd and rune speed. Which was more important. We didn't go frost presence until mop.
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I hope not.... if that happens I'm definitely not coming back lol.
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UP was the go to til they buffed frost presence in mop and even then UP was bugged in ToT to proc RC and any RPPM trinkets more often. But that wasn't found out til the 5.3 ptr. Once they fixed UP we went back to frost presence.
I knew eventually they fixed frost presence because of this, but I know cata was all unholy presence. Up until dragon soul when I went unholy(which naturally took UP). I don't even remember reading it in a guide, I just liked it more cause of how it felt. Then I read a guide during forelands and it was like yea use UP. We even used UP in ToT though because it bugged with rppm. It was why unholy was a top dps spec all of tot when it literally had zero buffs but QoL improvements.
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