Is HC avatar a bit bugged?

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Hi,

We are currently on Avatar HC, been on him for a littles less than one hour and got him to 35%. He seems pretty manageable. I have a question though, after he cast rupture realities the tank have to grap him cause of treath reset and he attacks the nearest target. But if melee dps, me included go at him right after the tanks says on TS he got him, he just turn around and one shot us randomly. We have tried to wait 2-3 seconds after the tank has him to attack Avatar but it still happens, I even tried to wait 2 sec and just go near him without attacking him and still got slapped.

We then decided to wait 5 seconds before going on him and that worked, but it feels very stupid to just stand and look at the boss for so long.

Others who also have had that problem that the boss kills random melees even after the tank got him?

/Squash

[Soisoisoi]

Make sure your tank is actually in melee range so Avatar can hit your tank, if he can't, he'll hit someone else - usually the melee.

[Tech614]

The tank didn't "have him" if you got melee'd period. There is no bug, there is shoddy tanking going on. Hell a tank doesn't even need to leave melee range for that shit, it hits a tank like a joke at max melee range.

[Deleted]

I will try to talk to the tank. He is doing something wrong then. He says he taunts Avatar but it does not seem like it. Do he have to use taunt when he gets in melee range or can it be used from a distance?

[Deleted]

Just make a monk taunt it so it comes faster, pref the tank, and make the tank stay on melee.

[Tusq]

I, as a rogue, stay in for a couple of the realities, and once in a while he actually targets me. I pop evasion to be safe, but he hasnt actually hit me yet, so im not sure what the issue is.

[Ealyssa]

He doesn't have to taunt at all. There is no threat reset...

You get out of melee when Rupture Realities is cast, you go back in when it's done. You have ~2s before Avatar start hiting again, plenty of tim for any tank to get back in melee (I easily did it on my BDK alt, and obviously even easier on anything else).

Your tank have serious issues if they can't just be near the boss after the spell. It's really just as simple as running to him in a straight line.

And again the only taunts needed are for tank swaps.

[Zylos]

eh...speaking as a tank here afaik there is no aggro reset. He should just be on whichever tank had him last. The only way he hits someone else is when he is rooted and neither tank is in melee range.

When the boss tank needs to swap to maiden make sure he doesn't run away from the boss until the other tank is in melee range.

[ONCHEhap]

the tanks just need to get back to the boss first before the DPS.

Now,this may sound tricky,but it really isn't,pop a minor CD and you can just eat the rupturing realities without any issue as a tank,there isn't really a reason to leave melee range as a tank,even in mythic except if maiden is currently casting her protocol during rupturing reality,then you move back

[Shoopuf]

I waddle back in on my prot paladin and it takes him ages to melee me again. Your tanks are slow getting back to melee range.

[Deleted]

yeah i find that it does have slow reactions..

[coocoo]

This is tanking 101.
When tanking a stationary/immobile target, it will *always* attack the target highest on threat list in melee range.
Your tank is being slow at getting within range / your dps are rushing in more quickly than the tank.

[Deleted]

Hi,

We are currently on Avatar HC, been on him for a littles less than one hour and got him to 35%. He seems pretty manageable. I have a question though, after he cast rupture realities the tank have to grap him cause of treath reset and he attacks the nearest target. But if melee dps, me included go at him right after the tanks says on TS he got him, he just turn around and one shot us randomly. We have tried to wait 2-3 seconds after the tank has him to attack Avatar but it still happens, I even tried to wait 2 sec and just go near him without attacking him and still got slapped.

We then decided to wait 5 seconds before going on him and that worked, but it feels very stupid to just stand and look at the boss for so long.

Others who also have had that problem that the boss kills random melees even after the tank got him?

/Squash

i am dk tank i never leave the boss .. with rupture i am directly at teh boss without going back a single meter and i roughly get 6 million dmg which is absorbed by my shell .. so no reason to leave the boss ...

dk tanks are op on so many fights

when your tank loses the aggro ist because he leaves the inner ring .. no reason to do that .. only reason to taunt is the stacks

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I think I have found on what went wrong, our tanks do the tank swap between Avatar and Maiden when rupture is cast, so there are a few dps with more treath on Avatar than the tank who need to take Avatar after the rupture. So they get burned because the tank with most agro on boss is standing with maiden out of range from the boss. We just need to switch at an other time or make the tank taunt avatar 2 sec before rupture cast is finished.