Antorus vs. Tomb difficulty

[Gaidax]

I just hope there won't be another Avatar, they can make Argus as difficult as KJ no problem, but Avatar was just too tight. It's a penultimate boss, so of course it should be strong, but it was almost Olympic synchronized swimming level of precision requirement at the beginning.

[Deleted]

tell us how you feel when you killed Ysera while doing solo questing

still think ysera shouldve replaced dragons of nightmare as a raid bos in En or be a extra boss, killing her while questing make no sense at all a dragon ascept killed solo while llving is stupid.

[Deleted]

judging by ptr tests heroic aggramar might be nuts for pugs

[Hotsforyou]

How hard do you think Mythic Antorus will be relative to Tomb of Sargeras?

Given that it is the final raid and it will be current content for a very long time, I anticipate that it will be tuned more difficult than Tomb of Sargeras to ensure that players are kept busy for as long as possible. Otherwise guilds will simply steamroll through it in a couple of months then unsubscribe for the next 10 months which is not in Blizzard's interest at all.

This is exactly all what we plan to do. We are not going to worry about Mythic. Its too much of a headache to maintain the roster. Clear heroic, then unsub until classic servers release and go have a good time enjoying leveling and 5 man stuff in classic. I'll prob never return to "moderm" wow unless they release 10m Mythic.

[Tehterokkar]

Because KJ was not a good boss mechanically. Very few mechanics, a lot of time spent doing nothing, too many near one-shot mechanics for non-tanks. On top of that, the last phase is really the same as heroic with a few more pillars, very disappointing overall.

Before all the nerfs and increase ilvl, being at 95% health meant death on some occasions(for example the Singularity+Circles combo before 2nd DPS adds of P2).

It was not a fun boss to progress overall, promoted heavy comp stacking, some classes/specs were not taken because they could not deal with singularity casts as well as others could. For example DKs, Shadow priests and Paladins are pretty shit out of luck on this fight due to their speed boosts being either very poor or long CD.

Many Horde guilds had their raiders race change to Goblin to get the rocket jump ability to counter Singularities better(mostly the singularity that spawns in middle during P1).

If Avatar was the final boss of ToS, it would have been much more satisfying. KJ was a turd.

[Tradu]

Because KJ was not a good boss mechanically. Very few mechanics, a lot of time spent doing nothing, too many near one-shot mechanics for non-tanks. On top of that, the last phase is really the same as heroic with a few more pillars, very disappointing overall.

Before all the nerfs and increase ilvl, being at 95% health meant death on some occasions(for example the Singularity+Circles combo before 2nd DPS adds of P2).

It was not a fun boss to progress overall, promoted heavy comp stacking, some classes/specs were not taken because they could not deal with singularity casts as well as others could. For example DKs, Shadow priests and Paladins are pretty shit out of luck on this fight due to their speed boosts being either very poor or long CD.

Many Horde guilds had their raiders race change to Goblin to get the rocket jump ability to counter Singularities better(mostly the singularity that spawns in middle during P1).

If Avatar was the final boss of ToS, it would have been much more satisfying. KJ was a turd.

Not just the last phase, honestly. The entire fight has 3 new mechanics(debuffs from tank/DPS adds and the healing adds), with 1 mechanic buffed to stupid levels(Singularity) and added to a phase where it just seems kinda unfair(shadow phase).

[MrLachyG]

So I'm supposed to believe kil'jaeden is more powerful than a titan world soul? The very thing that has powered the legion this entire time?

you're taking it too literally.

[Sithalos]

If Avatar was the final boss of ToS, it would have been much more satisfying. KJ was a turd.

I can agree with this.

[Pijips]

I can agree with this.

Would have been cool if KJ was say the second last boss of Antorus and someone else as last boss, with Argus being a secret mythic boss

[Alvito]

judging by ptr tests heroic aggramar might be nuts for pugs

As was KJ for a pretty long time.

[Reloe]

yea I can't see pugs being able to get the adds into Aggramar with the right amount of time in between each, but maybe blizz has just tuned it down so you can actually survive a double stack on heroic. If thats not already the case, it'll probably be one of the first nerfs for heroic.