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    Rate the Arms, "omgwtfarms", warrior above you!

    Yes, stole idea from that genius thread below. Same story but better ;>








    Stop ditch Arms heaters :<

    ps: link below

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    hit cap spot on, just slightly above soft expertise cap. And you're not reforging crit away
    Shouldn't be any problems there'

    But well, you could'veused the search function. There's already an existing thread for this
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...aggah/advanced

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    Is there? Never saw that, wouldnt hurt having a new I guess

    Eitherway, you char looks good :> Pitty of your head and ring, no luck on drops I assume? ;3

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    You have the Armor of my dreams....i salute you!
    hit & expertise perfectly capped also!

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    Here's me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Raevene/simple

    I got the Lavaworm Legplates from our raid last night, just haven't got around to gemming and enchanting them yet. Also hoping to get the helm from the Headless Horseman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raevene View Post
    Here's me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Raevene/simple

    I got the Lavaworm Legplates from our raid last night, just haven't got around to gemming and enchanting them yet. Also hoping to get the helm from the Headless Horseman.
    You're not on the hit cap, get that last rating, IT'S IMPORTANT!
    You're not Expertise capped either, needs to be fixed!
    Get rid of those 20Str/20Mastery gems. If you ever need to use Orange gems use the 20Str/20Crit one.

    Why in gods name do you have 3/3 in Toughness? Either go 2/2 B&T 1/3 Incite OR 3/3 Incite depending on what you prefer. I prefer the first alternative by far.

    Get Strength on bracers intead of crit.
    Get Lavawalker on Boots instead of hit.


    I guess that's that. Here's my Warrior - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Oerba/advanced
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeley View Post
    You're not on the hit cap, get that last rating, IT'S IMPORTANT!
    You're not Expertise capped either, needs to be fixed!
    Get rid of those 20Str/20Mastery gems. If you ever need to use Orange gems use the 20Str/20Crit one.

    Why in gods name do you have 3/3 in Toughness? Either go 2/2 B&T 1/3 Incite OR 3/3 Incite depending on what you prefer. I prefer the first alternative by far.

    Get Strength on bracers intead of crit.
    Get Lavawalker on Boots instead of hit.


    I guess that's that. Here's my Warrior - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Oerba/advanced
    gear looks good! wish i had heroic gear
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    I wish I'd have more luck with some loots (haven't seen the belt, hc ring, hc tier hand/shoulders nor normal sulfuras even once!)

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...arlin/advanced
    Last edited by Kankipappa; 2011-10-18 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeley View Post
    You're not on the hit cap, get that last rating, IT'S IMPORTANT!
    You're not Expertise capped either, needs to be fixed!
    Get rid of those 20Str/20Mastery gems. If you ever need to use Orange gems use the 20Str/20Crit one.
    Fair point on the talent points, I'm never sure where to put those last few points. My gemming and reforging I use Rawr to determine. My expertise probably needs looking at, my hit rating is only 0.01% off though and it's very rare for me to see an attack miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raevene View Post
    Fair point on the talent points, I'm never sure where to put those last few points. My gemming and reforging I use Rawr to determine. My expertise probably needs looking at, my hit rating is only 0.01% off though and it's very rare for me to see an attack miss.
    Then you should stop using Rawr and get your stat weights from Simulations and then put them into, for example, WoW-Reforge.com
    For your gemming, an easy and simplified rule'd be to not ever go for the socket bonus unless it gives at least 20Str. Orange gems will then be 20Str/20Crit and Purple gems 20Str/20Hit.

    And about the reforging, I'm not telling you to reforge one piece of gear to get that last 0.01%, I'm telling you that you should redo your whole reforging to optimize so that you get exactly or close to 8.00%

    EDIT: Sorry, should answer to the guy above too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kankipappa View Post
    I wish I'd have more luck with some loots (haven't seen the belt, hc ring, hc tier hand/shoulders nor normal sulfuras even once!)

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...arlin/advanced
    You too need to fix your reforging, cap your hit and expertise. Use simulationcraft to optimize your reforging, you could get quite a lot more crit instead of mastery there.
    And wtf at you reforging INTO haste? O_O

    Get rid of that blue gem in your belt and get a 40Str one. 10Str Socket bonus isn't worth it.

    Also, how come you only have 1 point in Tactical Mastery? If you're trying to Stance Dance then 1 point isn't enough, get 2. If you're not trying to stance dance, why put any point in it at all? Just put it in Blitz.
    Last edited by Xeley; 2011-10-18 at 06:59 PM.
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    Heres my baby. My first toon ever and main to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miseration View Post
    Heres my baby. My first toon ever and main to this day.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%ADon/advanced
    Hit is fine, but try and drop like ~20expertise rating so you're closer to the exact of 781 if my mind doesn't escape me. Anything above that is wasted, and you're at 802.
    Get rid of the blue gems in your Shoulders and Belt and stick 40Str in them. Same goes for your gloves, put 40str instead of 20Str/20Crit there. As a simple rule, don't take the socket bonus unless it's 20str+.
    Get rid of that Mastery enchant on your boots and get Lavawalker instead. Run speed increase have been proven to be a better DPS increase than anything else countless of times.

    About your specc, if you want B&T then take 1 point from Incite and 1 point from Rude Interruption and put them in Executioner instead, you don't want to skip it.

    And as always, try and get your personal stat weights from Simcraft and put them into, for example, WoW-Reforge.com for optimal reforging. Don't use those shitty pre-done stat weights or those terribad reforging addons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeley View Post
    Hit is fine, but try and drop like ~20expertise rating so you're closer to the exact of 781 if my mind doesn't escape me. Anything above that is wasted, and you're at 802.
    Get rid of the blue gems in your Shoulders and Belt and stick 40Str in them. Same goes for your gloves, put 40str instead of 20Str/20Crit there. As a simple rule, don't take the socket bonus unless it's 20str+.
    Get rid of that Mastery enchant on your boots and get Lavawalker instead. Run speed increase have been proven to be a better DPS increase than anything else countless of times.

    About your specc, if you want B&T then take 1 point from Incite and 1 point from Rude Interruption and put them in Executioner instead, you don't want to skip it.

    And as always, try and get your personal stat weights from Simcraft and put them into, for example, WoW-Reforge.com for optimal reforging. Don't use those shitty pre-done stat weights or those terribad reforging addons.
    Executioner huh. I find myself not using Execute often. How do you use it properly? I'm sure you dont just spam it, right?

    Edit: I thought to be dodge capped on bosses you wanted 26. I've always had 26 since I can remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miseration View Post
    Executioner huh. I find myself not using Execute often. How do you use it properly? I'm sure you dont just spam it, right?

    Edit: I thought to be dodge capped on bosses you wanted 26. I've always had 26 since I can remember.
    Last time I played Arms PvE seriously, you went berserker and spammed execute and hit mortal strike whenever it was up to keep rend up and proc enrages @20% health.
    You ain't gonna hit me boy, you swing like a little bitch
    You ain't gonna hit me, you swing. like. a. bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miseration View Post
    Executioner huh. I find myself not using Execute often. How do you use it properly? I'm sure you dont just spam it, right?

    Edit: I thought to be dodge capped on bosses you wanted 26. I've always had 26 since I can remember.
    You use it instead of Slam, but make sure the executioner buff never runs out. That'd mean it'd be
    MS > CS > OP > Exe You drop Slam and HS for the extra rage and GCD needed by Execute.

    And about the dodge cap, yes, 26.00 Expertise is what you want. You are however at 26.71 Expertise meaning you ought to drop ~20 Expertise rating. Right now you have 802, to get exactly 26 you need 781, so you've basically wasted 21 expertise rating that could be crit or something else.
    Use simcraft and a wow-reforge.com to optimize your reforging.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandrake View Post
    Last time I played Arms PvE seriously, you went berserker and spammed execute and hit mortal strike whenever it was up to keep rend up and proc enrages @20% health.
    This must have been in like 4.0.3-4.0.6 then. Now you ought to stance dance the whole fight basically through macroing all your abilities as well as only replacing Slam with Execute since you won't have the rage otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeley View Post
    You use it instead of Slam, but make sure the executioner buff never runs out. That'd mean it'd be
    MS > CS > OP > Exe You drop Slam and HS for the extra rage and GCD needed by Execute.

    And about the dodge cap, yes, 26.00 Expertise is what you want. You are however at 26.71 Expertise meaning you ought to drop ~20 Expertise rating. Right now you have 802, to get exactly 26 you need 781, so you've basically wasted 21 expertise rating that could be crit or something else.
    Use simcraft and a wow-reforge.com to optimize your reforging.


    This must have been in like 4.0.3-4.0.6 then. Now you ought to stance dance the whole fight basically through macroing all your abilities as well as only replacing Slam with Execute since you won't have the rage otherwise.
    How do you feel about the 359 ashkandi vs this crappy skullstealer axe? FoA/LtS vs AoK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miseration View Post
    How do you feel about the 359 ashkandi vs this crappy skullstealer axe? FoA/LtS vs AoK?
    Stay with the crappy skullstealer axe. Stats generally plays very little role. What matters is the top end damage (not to be confused with DPS and weapon speed).
    The actual stats only matter if the top end damage is pretty much identical.

    About the trinkets, stay with the Apparatus. I think the trinket rankings for Arms were something like

    Heroic Vessel > Heroic Appa > Normal Vessel > Heroic HoR > Normal Appa > Normal HoR

    Can't quite remember exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeley View Post
    Stay with the crappy skullstealer axe. Stats generally plays very little role. What matters is the top end damage (not to be confused with DPS and weapon speed).
    The actual stats only matter if the top end damage is pretty much identical.

    About the trinkets, stay with the Apparatus. I think the trinket rankings for Arms were something like

    Heroic Vessel > Heroic Appa > Normal Vessel > Heroic HoR > Normal Appa > Normal HoR

    Can't quite remember exactly.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miseration View Post
    359 ashkandi vs this crappy skullstealer axe?
    13% more weapon damage will always beat slower weapon speed and better itemisation plus don't forget about the higher strength (+67), even on a human (+3 exp).

    You can pop both FoA and AoK with DC every time but it's easier to stack FoA. If you need the hit LtS is an awesome trinket if not it's mediocre at best because it's not providing any burst for your cooldown phases.
    Last edited by klausistklaus; 2011-10-19 at 03:35 AM.

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    i'm focusing on PVP only, so i don't know......lol

    if is there anything pve to use in pvp?
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