Which team would let anyone get dragon at 2 or 4 though.
Shaco is qutie nice, though for some reason I am beyond bad with him. I can't gank with him, I don't do any damage, I suck at the stealth thing. But he has such a cool voice (bit like Mark Hamill's Joker voice from Batman).
Shaco can also dragon at level 2. Just saw it happen. And people let it happen, because they don't expect it that early, simple as that really.
Shaco tends to gank early though, so supports should ward at around 2-3 min anyways. Especially knowing he can solo dragon that early o.O
Should I buy Swain/Xerath or malzahar? ive played Malzahar and xerath before but cant decide between them, never played Swain though.. anyone who play these champs alot and can say who I should buy first?
You'll be able to try Malz this weekend; though honestly, Xerath will likely being the one seeing the most tournament action in the near future. He has a bit of a learning curve, but very high reward for mastering that curve. Swain, on the other hand, is countered by ignite, which almost any other ap mid is going to have.
Also lol @ this whole "I can do dragon at level x" e-peen contest.
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@Khusan, Well, I personally, dislike Malzahar due to the simple fact that he gets countered by 1 single item. Great pubstomper though.
Swain can do some sick damage, but he is countered by ignite due to the fact that it cuts the spell vamping of his ult, great champion overall though.
Xerath is simply a high range artillery like nuker, he tends to not do as much damage as other mages cause his scaling are pretty low, but his cooldowns are decent and he has his extreme range to make up for it. (and his stupid passive is being remade, yus)
Xerath scale is very bad, he is one of champions who look "great" on paper than actual, if he doesn't get fed early game he will suck late game, he is just "a poker from insane range", Malzahar is great pusher, has silence, great ulti (except if you eat oranges), his W is very good in team fights, and early game his passive give him a free pet to be more aggressive, his only drawback is he is very squishy, with no stun, he really need Rylai to slow chasers or he is screwed
Swain I never played him, so can't judge him good but he isn't bad hero imo
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The only champs I've got any good experience and skill with are Teemo (as AP) and Leona...I own Caitlyn, Master Yi, Tristana, Alistar, and Kayle, but haven't much/any experience with them (I got Kayle through the S1 skin reward). I need someone in a different role to learn and use, but I honestly have no idea where to branch out (or even try as far as what I already have). Yi was fun for a little bit, but all I felt comfortable doing was backdooring and running away...I'm mediocre at best.
-Wowhead user on the Lion Horn of Stormwind, an epic from the era of so-called "EPIC" epics.Now, THIS thing? THIS thing is horrible. It's just awful. It was awful at 60 and it was awful at 58. It's awful at 45. If this dropped off a mob in Wailing Caverns when you were level 17 and being run through by a higher level character, you would equip it ONLY because you don't have trinkets at that level, and it would STILL SUCK.
Leona doesn't really have anywhere to go, she can't jungle very well, and she tends to get eaten alive at solo top. she could babysit the ad carry bot I suppose, but meh. I'd say just try as much champions that are on free rotation i'd say. and see which you like
yes, because we all know teemo never hides shrooms in brush. ever.
I'm sorry but a map laced with high damage shrooms in every brush is going to either win your jungle control or start teamfights at 100% vs 50%.
They can avoid bushes... I played a game with AP shaco, the enemy team entered bushes only once in game (except tank, who of course can take shaco and boxes combined, was amumu)
Oracle does end Teemo AP threat, he can't put all shrooms in same spot like boxes
Getting dragon is 190g for all time, more gold than killing all enemy heroes combined, at lvl 2 190g IS big difference, however I still don't know yet how tbh (I'll look tomorrow), and if it needs much change from the "regular" jungling route then it isn't worth it tbh, better jungle and take dragon at lvl 8 than get dragon lvl 2 and do terrible ganks / slow jungling
*Yes. Low gain. As was explained above, doing a level 1/2 Dragon means you are sacrificing your ability to make plays from the jungle, which is one of the strong points of having a jungler. You also open your entire jungle up to be easily invaded, which could quickly snowball against you faster than that early dragon would snowball for you. It is far safer and more beneficial in the long run to clear jungle, provide ganks for lanes, and then take dragon when the risk/reward isn't so offbalanced.