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    Mage: 4.3 BiS Lists v3

    This is a very VERY early draft of possible BiS lists for the three specs. It is being based off of current stat values at BiS gear and are simply MY PERSONAL approximation. That is, at least, for the v1 format. As gear becomes finalized and the PTR moves into its launch build, hopefully SimCraft and CharDev will have updated their servers to house these items so I can build a true BiS list. Will update the OP with a new "v" as they become available.


    Arcane:

    Helm: Time Lord's Hood
    Neck: Opal of the Secret Order
    Shoulders: Time Lord's Mantle
    Back: Nanoprecise Cape
    Chest: Time Lord's Robes
    Bracers: Bracers of the Banished
    Gloves: Gloves of Liquid Smoke
    Belt: Cord of the Slain Champion
    Legs: Time Lord's Leggings
    Boots: Janglespur Jackboots
    Ring 1: Infinite Loop
    Ring 2: Ring of the Riven
    Trinket 1: Shard of Woe
    Trinket 2: Will of Unbinding
    Weapon: Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest
    OH: N/A
    Wand: Finger of Zon'ozz

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    Fire:

    Helm: Time Lord's Hood
    Neck: Opal of the Secret Order
    Shoulders: Time Lord's Mantle
    Back: Nanoprecise Cape
    Chest: Time Lord's Robes
    Bracers: Bracers of the Banished
    Gloves: Gloves of Liquid Smoke
    Belt: Cord of the Slain Champion
    Legs: Time Lord's Leggings
    Boots: Janglespur Jackboots
    Ring 1: Ring of the Riven
    Ring 2: Infinite Loop
    Trinket 1: Insignia of the Corrupted Mind
    Trinket 2: Will of Unbinding
    Weapon: Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest
    OH: N/A
    Wand: Finger of Zon'ozz

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    Frost:

    Helm: Time Lord's Hood
    Neck: Opal of the Secret Order
    Shoulders: Time Lord's Mantle
    Back: Nanoprecise Cape
    Chest: Time Lord's Robes
    Bracers: Bracers of the Banished
    Gloves: Gloves of Liquid Smoke
    Belt: Cord of the Slain Champion
    Legs: Time Lord's Leggings
    Boots: Janglespur Jackboots
    Ring 1: Infinite Loop
    Ring 2: Ring of the Riven
    Trinket 1: Insignia of the Corrupted Mind
    Trinket 2: Will of Unbinding
    Weapon: Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest
    OH: N/A
    Wand: Finger of Zon'ozz


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    NOTE: ALL SETS WERE DONE ON A TROLL MAGE. PERSONAL RESULTS MAY VARY DEPENDING ON PLAYER RACE.
    Last edited by Lord Swizzlington; 2011-11-29 at 01:59 PM.

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    Looks pretty clean cut, I'll try running some sims to see what's new with frost.

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    I'm confused on the t12 under arcane instead of t13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyankha View Post
    I'm confused on the t12 under arcane instead of t13.
    The Four-piece set bonus for arcane is TREMENDOUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    The Four-piece set bonus for arcane is TREMENDOUS.
    Oh right, forgot about that. Sadly, I dare say they'll nerf it, like they did with boom T11 4set
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyankha View Post
    I'm confused on the t12 under arcane instead of t13.
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    Too tired to finish the lists tonight, will work on them again tomorrow during Civ Pro and Legal Skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    The Four-piece set bonus for arcane is TREMENDOUS.

    sorry , but i will never ever accept that the t12 4 set bonus is "tremendous" enough to negate ~ 700 RAW INT O_O

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    i have a question about weapons, atm im running with Volcanospike hc + Book of binding will and was i got rag normal staff and started to wonder if the staff is better?

    and if i switch from 1hand+offhand to staff i need to to DMC:V instead or MWC because of lack of hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraw View Post
    i have a question about weapons, atm im running with Volcanospike hc + Book of binding will and was i got rag normal staff and started to wonder if the staff is better?

    and if i switch from 1hand+offhand to staff i need to to DMC:V instead or MWC because of lack of hit
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    Wrong thread there sir.

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    dont know where to post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    The Four-piece set bonus for arcane is TREMENDOUS.
    uh no.. it isnt.. not compared to the item level lost, and the 4pc t13 is amazing for arcane as well.

    also, these lists are so ridiculous, idk why you even bothered posting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraw View Post
    dont know where to post!
    Ask the trinket questions in the trinket sticky and feel free to ask your weapon questions in either the 4.2 thread or any of the spec guides.

    ---------- Post added 2011-10-27 at 03:23 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by pixul View Post
    also, these lists are so ridiculous, idk why you even bothered posting them.
    It's explained twice in the thread. I put them up simply to put them up since I'm losing access to this laptop for a few days to get a fixed logicboard and I was tired last night to finalize the lists (comparing stats in db.mmo is a pain).

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    Shard of woe will be replaced if there's 1 new trinket that arcane can benefit from properly. T12 is also replaced easily considering how mediocore both bonuses are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoblade View Post
    Shard of woe will be replaced if there's 1 new trinket that arcane can benefit from properly. T12 is also replaced easily considering how mediocore both bonuses are.
    He didn't finish the lists... did you not read past the first 6 lines of the post?

    "I KNOW IT'S NOT COMPLETE, BUT I AM SLEEPY."

    Also regarding SOW, we aren't 100% sure if it will or won't be BiS... much like DTR it scales along with gear, so we need to see how much it scales.

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    Cunning of the Cruel, Insignia of the Corrupted Mind, and the probably not finalized Will of Unbinding are all decent candidates. It's as mono says though, it all comes down to how good SoW scales.
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    Yeah, I was going to finalize the list this morning, but I got called on in Crim, so I had to focus on that. It should be done during Civ Pro.

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    Swizzle, aren't the Bracers of Unconquered Power (ilvl 397 craftable BoE from Boub's 9/27/11 4.3 Item post since I can't do links yet) better than Domo's?

    Bracers of Unconquered Power Epic
    Binds when equipped
    Cloth Wrist
    673 Armor

    +231 Intellect
    +406 Stamina

    Red Socket
    Red Socket
    Socket Bonus: +20 Intellect
    Requires Level 85
    Item Level 397

    Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 143.
    Equip: Improves haste rating by 171.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzle View Post
    It's explained twice in the thread. I put them up simply to put them up since I'm losing access to this laptop for a few days to get a fixed logicboard and I was tired last night to finalize the lists (comparing stats in db.mmo is a pain).
    So what you are saying is... this list shouldn't have been posted cause its awful and inaccurate under any circumstances...got it.

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    I am not sure why a placeholder topic offends you so much

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