Originally Posted by
Shelly
1. You SHOULD be dpsing during the Alys ground phase.
2. If you've got TV as a Holy paladin congrats on breaking the game?
3. Sure, go ahead, you can have TV as long as I can have Holy Shock added to my toolkit.
Anyway Captain Hyperbole, my point wasn't that Ret and Prot are doomed, but it is a definite nerf to their survivability. Also if you were unaware HR - especially with wings and a decent amount of haste and in the case of Prot stacks of vengeance - can be a very powerful heal. Roughly equal to 10 to 15% or more of the health of the paladin casting it.
And the Holy Shock thing does raise a very good point about ret survivability, which is pretty much when they changed art of war (or was it crusade?) to be only free exorcisms rather than free flashes of light it really took the wind out of the sails of paladin self-healing.