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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by jearle View Post
    I know of certain PvP guilds that will be power rushing premade groups of 4 to 50 just for this reason.
    I think there was a recent dev post or update that said "pre-mades" will be limited to something like 3-4 people. Of coarse if they are the only ones entering battlegrounds at that time they will likely be placed together but once more people come they would be lucky if thier small groups were placed in the same bg.
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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    I think there was a recent dev post or update that said "pre-mades" will be limited to something like 3-4 people. Of coarse if they are the only ones entering battlegrounds at that time they will likely be placed together but once more people come they would be lucky if thier small groups were placed in the same bg.
    ok so explain this to me because here is a issue I am having in my head with math.

    Typical server in the year 2011 holds 2,000 players online at one time before the queue's start. Now you already do not have x-server LFG, so automatically you REQUIRE 50/50% server balance or one side will see higher queue's.

    Now reduce the number of people you have a chance to be grouped with because you are in a pre made.

    My question how is this single server war front thing going to be anything other then a complete disaster?
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    ok so explain this to me because here is a issue I am having in my head with math.

    Typical server in the year 2011 holds 2,000 players online at one time before the queue's start. Now you already do not have x-server LFG, so automatically you REQUIRE 50/50% server balance or one side will see higher queue's.

    Now reduce the number of people you have a chance to be grouped with because you are in a pre made.

    My question how is this single server war front thing going to be anything other then a complete disaster?
    I dunno, I was wrong about the 3-4 man premades anyways, appearently it can be a group of 8 that can enter BGs

    I'm not sure what you are trying to argue either, live servers are not up yet and we do not know how fast and how many people wll be leveling up to certain levels for battleground numbers in the first few weeks as I was explaining. It will be low either way though because for every person who rushes through the bulk of the game there are likely several who are playing it to its fullest meaning that at first there will be relatively few making battlegroups and even fewer making pre mades for the first while at least.

    I can't pretend to know what the exact numbers will be more then anyone else, or how successful those premades will be when the total numbers of PVPers will be relatively small (and every one that is eligible for end game PVP near the beginning of launch will likely have the plan to be hardcore, making it harder for a less diverse group to succeed)
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    It is a group of 4 you can enter with, not 8.

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  5. #85
    Probably going to play it as a single player RPG for a while. Take my time and enjoy the leveling experience and story, then see what the endgame has to offer.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    I think there was a recent dev post or update that said "pre-mades" will be limited to something like 3-4 people. Of coarse if they are the only ones entering battlegrounds at that time they will likely be placed together but once more people come they would be lucky if thier small groups were placed in the same bg.
    I think you missed my point, 4 is the maximum you can queue with. If you have a group of 4 50s who are coordinated queue up, they are going to have some serious advantages over players half their level.

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    Single player with a chat feature. Once I get to max level I may see what end game content there is.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    ok so explain this to me because here is a issue I am having in my head with math.

    Typical server in the year 2011 holds 2,000 players online at one time before the queue's start. Now you already do not have x-server LFG, so automatically you REQUIRE 50/50% server balance or one side will see higher queue's.

    Now reduce the number of people you have a chance to be grouped with because you are in a pre made.

    My question how is this single server war front thing going to be anything other then a complete disaster?
    Pre-mades arent going to reduce your matchmaking value. The queues should not be terrible with some same faction huttballs smoohting things out.

    Although i do agree that faction imbalance is going to have to be addressed, and it will be interesting to see how BW does this.
    They could go as far to locking down factions on certain servers or moving faction selection before server selection.

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    Get my ass to 50 to start raiding. Sorcerer most likely

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Temeluchus View Post
    No matter how fast of a power leveler you are, no way will you hit 50 within a week of launch. Even if you sleep/eat/use the facilities 3-4 hours total a day it won't be done.
    Challenge accepted. Everyone has said that to me with every new MMO I have tried out, and I have proven them wrong!!!

  11. #91
    I'm going to buy alot of red bull and lock my self in my room until January 1st. JK, I'm probably going to stay in from December 21th to 24th and try to get to level 50 or at lest 30ish.
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  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtua View Post
    Challenge accepted. Everyone has said that to me with every new MMO I have tried out, and I have proven them wrong!!!
    Temeluchus shouldn't be encouraging level rushers like that. He's only hurting the rest of us and even the rushers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelfie View Post
    Awh, did i hurt your feelings? I'm pretty sure i'm allowed to have a opinion, no need to get rude. Please close the door gently when walking out, thank you!
    I followed yours posts due to your "topless is ok for me" post on the other forum (perv here), only to find that your bashing on SW:TOR?! They are both great games, and they will both provide great competition for each other. I agree that you have an opinion, but being hostile about that opinion is that same thing as people trying to convert you to their religion. Please stop.

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    Just as I did during the beta weekend.

    Getting lost in the world and listening to all quest givers, the light / dark decisions really make you listen to all of the speech so that you don't accidentally choose the wrong one.

    As for the speed side of the game. I hit level 18 on beta in about 20 hours, skipping all quest text (third time going through) and not bothering with little things like I did on previous toons. First time round it took about 20 hours to get to level 11-13, but I was learning.

    If it's your first time playing then I HIGHLY recommend listening to quests, following quests, doing side quests, professions and the group quests / dungeons. You'll be missing out on a lot of fun content. Rushing is not the way to go, this isn't like wow etc.
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  15. #95
    Agreed, first time through is going to take a long time to get acclimated, learn your class, listen to the story of the game, look around at the environment.

    If you're playing it fresh on release, you are in for a treat IMO, don't waste it.

    If you haven't been in the beta, trying to power level and steamroll the game is pointless, you won't come close to the leveling pace of people who have done it a couple times. You should enjoy whats put in front of you and go steady. If you want to do endgame I would assume youre in a guild and the leveling pace should be close in your group if you want to enjoy it together.

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