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    Quote Originally Posted by Primernova View Post
    Everytime I remember Wow has an Activision influence, I just cringe.
    ...is basically what you said.

    GW2 is made by ArenaNet in Seattle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mif View Post
    Most of the people complaining about having to wait having been waiting long at all.

    People that have been waiting 3 years are all "meh delay"
    People that have been waiting 3 months are all "omfg this is fucking bullshit so fucking sick of waiting".
    Agreed Mif. FINALLY got my account up and running after following the threads on here for years. I've been playing GW since 2004, and WoW since 2005. I've quit WoW but that's for another thread - I keep myself busy playing Skyrim, Minecraft and GW1 these days and honestly since I heard about GW2 YEARS ago I am still just as pumped if not more pumped for the release of the beta and eventually the final game.

    Honestly people don't realize that making games is a lot of work and time.. There's a reason they cost millions of dollars plus to make. But anyway, back on topic. I am not disappointed at this in the slightest. I will wait as long as it takes for them to polish the game and give us what we have been waiting for. 10$ down at the local gamestop in prep for when they announce collectors edition pre-sales.

    Can't wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tea View Post
    Yea but that goes for hype, I bet there's a much lower number of people who have been waiting all those years than the new hyped up people. The ones used to the wait will keep on waiting and surely buy the game. Hyped up people keep on going for a while and might lose interest if they get to wait too long and hypes over something else or roll something else.
    That's why I'm thinking, perhaps they have given us too much information if they don't intend to release it quite "soon". Holding on to information instead of giving it to the public delay the hype stream and also makes them able to more easily also delay development and release.
    The people who are mindless sheep all around the hype of the game just because it's new and shiny can get lost. The true fans are the people I want to play with when the game finally comes out. And it will be very obvious who those people are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solidito View Post
    If the release date is made longer, then tbh i'm happy that they're not rushing things. I've waited nearly 5 years, i can wait longer.
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by PandarianLeakage View Post
    They just want to see how SWTOR will fare up in the market so they can release at an appropriate time methinks.
    Huh? I don't understand why people keep bringing up WoW or SW:ToR in Guild Wars threads. Guild Wars 1 is doing just fine even to this day with WoW out there. The release of MoP or SW:ToR has nothing to do with Guild Wars 2. The good people at Arena Net are not concerned with those other games, they know they will do great with GW2 and have enough people playing and supporting it.

    I for one don't give a crap about Star Wars games and WoW hasn't done it for me since WoTLK came out. GW1 is my MMO of choice currently and GW2 will be the game for me when it's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AggroCrag32 View Post
    Good thing I bought Skyrim, it shall hold me over for a while.
    This, plus WoW, SW:TOR beta, and free Diablo 3 coming from the annual pass means they can take as long as they want. A few months ago it would've pissed me off, no doubt. Honestly I think this is being overblown, seems like they're still on target for beta this year... though that could mean December 31st.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mkalafut View Post
    I've been playing GW since 2004
    Were you actually in the very first beta weekend or do you just not know when the game came out?

    The people who are mindless sheep all around the hype of the game just because it's new and shiny can get lost. The true fans are the people I want to play with when the game finally comes out. And it will be very obvious who those people are.
    Wow. No. This game has the chance to change the direction of MMORPGs as we know them. Do you want more WoW clones for the next decade? I certainly don't. This game needs to be a huge success, and it needs to take in a huge audience and be enjoyable for all of them. The longer they take, the more hype they lose. I hope ANet is aware of that. I think they are, but if they start to actually delay (this isn't a delay) I may begin to doubt. There is a 99% chance I get this game, even if it doesn't release for 3 more years, but I don't want ANet to kill their sales of the game by killing off their hype machine.
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    It's important to not forget that 5 years is the standard development time for MMOs. Not only that, ANet is changing our entire perception of the genre in the same amount of time it takes everyone else to make a WoW clone with 1 new feature tacked on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    I was wondering about that. Isn't Aion by NCsoft as well? I do remember people who spoke against Aion that one of the reasons why they do not have high hopes is the involvement of NCsoft who had (allegedly) a history of churning out game after game, but not really caring for them.

    Hearsay, I know, but maybe you guys have something more to add?
    Guild Wars has updates at least twice a week. Just because the NCSoft logo is on the box does not make GW a shitty game, nor will it negatively affect GW2, in my opinion. Aion was a total bomb. I played the trial and said screw it, but for me and the others who still actively play GW1, a very outdated game (which still has better graphics than WoW, lol???) you can bet that if they churn out updates and downloadable content you can bet that regardless of NCsoft being part of the picture GW2 will do well.

    Quote Originally Posted by omlech View Post
    It's important to not forget that 5 years is the standard development time for MMOs. Not only that, ANet is changing our entire perception of the genre in the same amount of time it takes everyone else to make a WoW clone with 1 new feature tacked on.
    Oh yeah, and that. :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakhar View Post
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    I was in the beta. And I have an account with 50/50 HoM and obby armor and a 2nd on the way (33/50 almost to obby). I have been playing this game longer than I've been playing WoW and I continue to support it way more than I've ever supported WoW. Please don't try to start shit and accuse me of crap like that, also I don't think you read that second part correctly. I know it's a game changer and I freakin hate WoW. But I also know it won't be a WoW, so there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    Meh, i did too, but LoL is pretty meh to me... GW1 on the other hand is keeping me very very occupied in my free time =D!!
    It will do for now. I just hope to hear sbout the last profession soon. I cannot wait for this game!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalla View Post
    It will do for now. I just hope to hear sbout the last profession soon. I cannot wait for this game!!
    i can wait, but i really want to know what the last prof is!!
    Quote Originally Posted by draykorinee View Post
    Youre in the mmo forums and you find mmos boring, Im heading on over to the twilight forums to add my unecessary and shallow 2 cents.

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    I played TOR this weekend and quite honestly, between WoW and TOR I'll be set for a long time.

    I don't plan to go anywhere from WoW, and I think TOR will have enough to engage me for a while. GW2 looks good don't get me wrong, there is just the lack of draw to it that I had to WoW and TOR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mif View Post
    Most of the people complaining about having to wait having been waiting long at all.

    People that have been waiting 3 years are all "meh delay"
    People that have been waiting 3 months are all "omfg this is fucking bullshit so fucking sick of waiting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krekko View Post
    I played TOR this weekend and quite honestly, between WoW and TOR I'll be set for a long time.

    I don't plan to go anywhere from WoW, and I think TOR will have enough to engage me for a while. GW2 looks good don't get me wrong, there is just the lack of draw to it that I had to WoW and TOR.
    That's very interesting.

    Why I say that is because generally, WoW and GW2 are linked in terms of the shape of their lore, but I guess you're into TOR because of it's similarities to WoW. I won't hate on your decision because you're very deeply connected to WoW's core design, but eventually won't you get bored of these old mechanics?

    TOR to me, just looks like a very very big budget WoW expansion :S.

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    I haven't been waiting anywhere near as long as most people, but I always get a "God damnit" going through my head when I hear about delays.
    I know why they happen, and I know they're delayed for good reasons, but I want to play their games!

    That's just me being greedy though.
    But then again, I've been waiting 11 years for Diablo III, so I guess I can't complain.

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    For the last time, there have been no delays! lol

    Maybe it's the really misleading title of this thread, but it's been stated over and over that Arenanet are still following their schedule of having a Closed Beta by the end of the year, the results of which will determine when they do an Open Beta, and the results of that will determine the release date. Closed beta was always likely going to continue into the start of 2012, and all NCSoft did was mention this out loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothhive View Post
    For the last time, there have been no delays! lol

    Maybe it's the really misleading title of this thread, but it's been stated over and over that Arenanet are still following their schedule of having a Closed Beta by the end of the year, the results of which will determine when they do an Open Beta, and the results of that will determine the release date. Closed beta was always likely going to continue into the start of 2012, and all NCSoft did was mention this out loud.
    Exactly. I think a lot of people are jealous that the ToR kids get to play with their new toys and we don't, and that's manifesting itself into raging over the release date and perceived delays.

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    As far as losing hype and interest goes, I wouldn't be too concerned. These things tend to pick up as launch nears and they start releasing more videos, beta NDA's are lifted and the media gets more to write about.

    For everyone saying it's a good thing they're given the time they need to polish the game - no, delays don't always benefit the game. When game developers are given too much time and money, you end up with disasters like Daikatana or Duke Nukem Forever. There's a fine balance between getting a game out in a timely manner and giving the designers enough creative freedom. Moving too much towards either is always bad.

    But hey, it's only a couple of months. It's all good as long as the delays don't start piling up.

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    First of all.....the mention of NCSoft made me puke a little. I thought Arenanet was taking care of the beta and handling the game, not ncsoft?

    I haven't seen much news recently, or release of the final class, so my guess is Beta won't start till next year. At this rate, the game will probably be released in fall or winter of 2012.

    IMO they need to stop taking their time and get things moving, people are losing interest. The best part of MMO's is that even if the game releases with some bugs, which will happen regardless of how polished they get it, it can easily be fixed with content patches or quick bug hotfixes.

    They should get the beta up asap so they can get some real feedback, and ship final product by early summer regardless of whatever problems still exist. I'm sure they have the bulk of the game done, and making people wait without providing any new game footage or something to play is just going to hurt them.

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    There isn't any delay. They haven't given a solid date for them to delay. Nothing has changed. Say that again. Nothing has changed.

    Ice your nips people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protoman View Post
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    They should get the beta up asap so they can get some real feedback, and ship final product by early summer regardless of whatever problems still exist. I'm sure they have the bulk of the game done, and making people wait without providing any new game footage or something to play is just going to hurt them.
    Yes, because releasing a buggy unfinished game early has worked so well in the past for likes of AoC and WAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blznsmri View Post
    Ice your nips people.
    I'm definitely going to start using that phrase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wynnyelle View Post
    I'm definitely going to start using that phrase.
    I knew I should have copyrighted it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blznsmri View Post
    I knew I should have copyrighted it!
    People would of just torrent'd it anyway.

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