The Meditation passive is removed for Mists of Pandaria

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Despite our happy faces for judgement now being an easy to keep-up buff that doesn't flactuate our mp5 if not used regularly, i noticed in the new talent calculator that the Meditation passive we have right now is gone. Is that a typo or omission from their part? Or is the talent wiped out and so we got compensated with the Judgement buff?
Sorry if this has being mentioned before I don't remember reading anything about this as of yet.

[Kelesti]

Discipline Priests have no access to Heal or their new Holy Nova. Their regen is still based off of max mana, which is no longer scaling (while Holy's will scale with +30% that Paladins have).

The talent trees are nowhere near done. They just wanted people to have an idea of what they "might be thinking", and halfassed something to throw at us before the americans commit turkicide to keep the rest of the world distracted.

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judgements of pure passive at level 30 for holy only gives the 30% spirit buff like you have in 4.3, also with selfless healer your stil going to want to judge often for free and empowered flash of lights +100% effectiveness and 0 mana cost.

[Tatsu]

judgements of pure passive at level 30 for holy only gives the 30% spirit buff like you have in 4.3, also with selfless healer your stil going to want to judge often for free and empowered flash of lights +100% effectiveness and 0 mana cost.

I would take eternal glory over selfless healer. Its not a free flash of light. It would cost you 10% base mana since you have to judge to do it.

[Urban Holy Paladin]

Meditation still exists for Druids and Shamans. It's not clear if this is a mistake or intentional. With the loss of MP5 from Blessing of Might and the loss of Meditation, this is a serious reduction in mana regen if it is correct.

[Evalonne]

They also mentioned that many of the talents that they considered mandatory/passive to any given spec would be baseline to that spec. It's also possible that they're working that into the int/spirit revamp where all mana regen comes from spirit and int only increases throughput (instead of throughput, crit, and mana pool).

Did not see that it was listed for druids and shaman. That's interesting and definitely worth keeping an eye on. I suspect, though, that it's either an oversight or a nerf that will get turned around once it hits beta/PTR.

[Pasture]

judgements of pure passive at level 30 for holy only gives the 30% spirit buff like you have in 4.3, also with selfless healer your stil going to want to judge often for free and empowered flash of lights +100% effectiveness and 0 mana cost.

I imagine a lot of Holy Paladins won't be picking this up. I certainly won't.