Mod Edit: "Shut your yap..." Let's not have stuff like that please.
Last edited by Dacien; 2011-11-23 at 09:26 PM.
If I have to choose between tax and spend, and lower taxes and spend, I'm going with the former, because I give a shit about our deficits. When Cheney says deficits don't matter, that's not a fiscal conservative. But again, I'm talking about the politicians, not Republicans in general.
Back on-topic, the thing that bugs me the most with Norquist is that his pledge seems to supersede the pledge to the Constitution. I don't like this. Not much I can do about it, but I don't like it.
Allow me to present a few of my own theories/opinons in this.
For starters, the debt ceiling. The original deal was made to last until election time. Really? Ends AT election time? So the primary focus of the debate this time around is going to be the debt crisis? Either both sides had no choice, or they set that up to prep their stance on it come crunch time. It's turning from 'fix the nation' into a political mind **** that is doing far more harm than good.
Military spending. The biggest reason why these other countries do not have big military budgets is because they don't have to. We have brave men and women stationed all over the world. Alot of them. So why would these countries spend alot of money on military when they have another country willing to step in?
Both Democrats and Republicans are at fault here. The crap Republicans spit out escapes the field of logic then borderilnes sheer insanity. Democrats are spineless, big-government go getters that are slowly creeping in the same direction as Republicans (albeit they have different view points).
It all boils down to the mighty dollar. Senators can run for office and win as many times as they want, and they will cut spending to things that do not line their pockets nearly as much as something they wouldn't cut. Here's an idea; lead by example. They need to cut their own paygrades and stop accepting lobbyist bids so they can have two more houses to choose from when they want to go on vacation. That goes for any office that does not have limited terms;cut their wages. Not only that, limit the amount of times they can be an office. Add an incentive that makes them want to work for their people by adding something in like 'if your people don't like you GTFO now' versus the next election (I know that last part is a bit unstable, but I'm sure someone here could easily tweak the idea).
Greed is the centerpiece of our current government. Do I call for anarchy? Of course not. I call for accountability, which unfortunately nowadays applies to people of the opposite party that are not liked and mistakes are exploited to gain more power for the first party.
Furthermore, Republicans just blindly voting no to anything that comes to the table is like a child taking their ball and going home because they did not get what they want. A piss poor stonewall tactic that does nothing but let the people suffer. They go in to 'represent and serve' the people of their respective districts, these old coots arent even doing that right! It's a 'well you didnt pass the bill I wanted now I'm going to deny anything and everything you throw up here not because I don't agree with it but because you did not agree with the one idea I had.'
Yeah...pisses me off to say the least.
---------- Post added 2011-11-23 at 09:37 PM ----------
And maybe you shouldn't have started with your random comments?
Believe you can cut the defense budget by 50% and still outspend the next 10 countries of the world.
Course, if they allow that to happen, they'll probably send that freed up money overseas instead of, dunno, improving our infrastructure.
That aside, I wouldn't care if the money still went into the "defense" budget just so long as it went to projects here at home. Smaller and more stable power grids, better roads, these things are KEY to a strong national defense. I'd be happy to see soldiers out building American roads and power grids instead of blowing up some other country's.
---------- Post added 2011-11-23 at 01:44 PM ----------
I can't move to Finland because I live in a country where I'm over-worked, under-paid, and poorly educated. Why don't YOU move here and see how you like a system that provides you none of the amenities your armchair-economics rely on?
Last edited by smrund; 2011-11-23 at 09:44 PM.
People keep claiming we spend on defense for the rest of the world.
Never quite sure how they figured that one.