Tier 13 Protection Gloves

[Temsen]

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78678/n...te-handguards/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78669/c...te-handguards/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78677/h...radiant-glory/
Please, tell me this is either a joke or a bug and not Blizzards solution to Prot Paladins capping mastery.

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Same deal with Shoulders:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=78745
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=78734
It's just blizzard being blizzard, who cares about paladins having the same treatment as others.

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Or the fact that mastery is actually USEFUL for warriors and DKs? Where as as soon as paladins hit the CTC cap which every paladin and his horse have now hit mastery comes pretty much completely useless, plus your not exactly going for the 4 set bonus so you only need the 2 set bonus and 2 of the t13 pieces are fine, stop crying and look at a BiS list.

[Temsen]

Or the fact that mastery is actually USEFUL for warriors and DKs? Where as as soon as paladins hit the CTC cap which every paladin and his horse have now hit mastery comes pretty much completely useless, plus your not exactly going for the 4 set bonus so you only need the 2 set bonus and 2 of the t13 pieces are fine, stop crying and look at a BiS list.

How about you start to look at the actual items first? Warrior and DK gloves got 20 more str, 10 more hit and 10 more mastery than paladins dodge. There is NO way this is fair itemization.

[Estragenlol]

Or the fact that mastery is actually USEFUL for warriors and DKs? Where as as soon as paladins hit the CTC cap which every paladin and his horse have now hit mastery comes pretty much completely useless, plus your not exactly going for the 4 set bonus so you only need the 2 set bonus and 2 of the t13 pieces are fine, stop crying and look at a BiS list.

I agreed with you until you mentioned 4 piece. If you aren't going for 4 piece you are clueless.

[Téuntjûh]

tbh, quite happy with this. Give more dodge and parry, will be capped anyway.

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I agreed with you until you mentioned 4 piece. If you aren't going for 4 piece you are clueless.

I guess he's stating 4pc bonus as 'useless' based in Firelands instead of taking a look to Dragon Soul.

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How about you start to look at the actual items first? Warrior and DK gloves got 20 more str, 10 more hit and 10 more mastery than paladins dodge. There is NO way this is fair itemization.

quoting to bump it's point WHY has our tier had less budget spent on it?

[Téuntjûh]

Wow, didnt look that well at the gear.
We get less stats for the same itemlvl?
Didn't an iLvl stand for a certain amount of stats?

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All I can think is that once capped as a warrior you basically only gain half your mastery's use.

You only gain the crit block increase since you cannot increase your chance to block anymore once you are unhitable.

The str difference is strange but maybe to get the increase in avoidence on a similar level something else had to give.

[morphling8]

Hmm that's pretty odd, I thought 1 dodge rating = 1 mastery (in terms of ilvl not actual tanking mitigation)? In which case our item is either under budget or warrior is over.

If there is no budget issue, then I am fine with it. With reforging we will still easily hit 102.4%, and balance dodge/parry. So it doesn't really matter much....

[Evilution]

Would count it as a fail in allocation of stats, the 3 different plate tank
legs all have equal number of stats.
No reason that the paladin tank gloves should be crippled.
397 ones http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=76991;77006;77011
410 ones http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=78705;78715;78716

Hoping the first hotfix will make it right.

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I guess he's stating 4pc bonus as 'useless' based in Firelands instead of taking a look to Dragon Soul.

Honestly im raiding 25 man and with the magnitude of raid CDs we have i'd much rather have more avoidence etc than a few more range and lower CD on one raid CD, obviously i'll get it for fights like ultraxxion but thats about it other than that i won't be using it for my main set