If we were to find a planet /Hypothethical-ish/

[Deleted]

And we could move to it very fast etc, But there was one restriction!
On the planet, Only people without diseases could live there because its the only way to get rid of them
without getting cruel towards the people that do have it. Genetics wouldnt matter because its hard to avoid in some cases
And genetics could fail even if there was nothing wrong with you, for example an older woman getting pregnant and getting a disabled child.
They just want to get rid of the chance for you to infect people directly. So i'm talking about the more serious diseases here
Such as STD's and everything else that you can infect people with thats actually serious.

Would doing something like this be discrimination or would it be something like trying to get a new start without sick people and not being much diffrent from the porn indrustry where you obviously can't apply when you have AIDS.

And Q nr 2 If you were the only person that somehow was magically allowed to go there anyway with carying a disease you could infect people with... Would you go and risk that people on that planet could be infected with whatever you have, Or would you stay on earth?

Note that earth wont be a miserable place or abandoned. Anyone that doesent want to go simply can decline. Nothing much would change on earth and if you didn't know what was going on you'd not notice any diffrence!

[Deleted]

Yes, this would be discrimination, for sure! Also, you don't stop a disease by killing people or casting them to some place.


As for question 2, no, I wouldn't go. If I had a disease that is can infect other people, I sure as hell wouldn't go, I'm not interested in making other people's lives bad.

Overall, it depends on the disease you have, or how sick you are. If it's something like a cold or anything like that, it's okay. Herpes, it's okay, a lot of people have it and don't know since it's not active and all that, and refusing people from moving to a new planet because of that seems, odd.

Though if it was something more serious, I wouldn't go.

[MagicBanana]

You would have a very hard time getting completely "clean" people over there. Many diseases can be present but passive, meaning a healthy person can go to the planet, have kids with another healthy person, and the kids ould still have a chance to be born with the dominant disease.

I also agree with Majad, sounds like crazy discrimination.

[Pandamists]

So I have been studying the Solar System and life for awhile now and I would have to say: Moving to another planet that is habitable etc.. is likely to have micro-organisms and we could face back-contamination and get disease ourselves there. As far as discrimination it is indefinably discrimination... though I think for a good reason if we want to start a new.

[Deleted]

Yes, this would be discrimination, for sure! Also, you don't stop a disease by killing people or casting them to some place.

Though if this is discrimination like the point about the porn industry not allowing sick people, is that discrimination aswell then?
Or is it only discrimination because you're moving somewhere and leaving people behind?

And it isnt really about killing people or casting them to some place, they practically stay where they are and you leave yourself. Or do you feel people automaticly get something such as HIV from the wind on a new planet that doesent have it where no one has it?

[Deleted]

Though if this is discrimination like the point about the porn industry not allowing sick people, is that discrimination aswell then?
Or is it only discrimination because you're moving somewhere and leaving people behind?

I don't consider it a discrimination in the porn industry, why? Because people are required to be "clean", it's part of the job, does that make much sense? :s

And it isnt really about killing people or casting them to some place, they practically stay where they are and you leave yourself. Or do you feel people automaticly get something such as HIV from the wind on a new planet that doesent have it where no one has it?

I don't want to sound ignorant or stupid or anything but I don't understand what you're trying to say there.

[Alcan]

This would already be the case because sick people wouldn't be allowed on the space craft. This is to limit potential risk. It been like this since people first went into space.

[Blueobelisk]

Uhhhhh it depends on my disease. If I went I'd be cautious about stuff and not spread it, but if it's a big deal I'm not gonna be a dick and ruin everything for them.

[Slure]

This would already be the case because sick people wouldn't be allowed on the space craft. This is to limit potential risk. It been like this since people first went into space.

This. /Thread.

Infracted.

[Deleted]

I don't consider it a discrimination in the porn industry, why? Because people are required to be "clean", it's part of the job, does that make much sense? :s

I don't want to sound ignorant or stupid or anything but I don't understand what you're trying to say there.

As you said you don't stop a disease by killing people or casting them away.
But if there was a planet where there was no way of getting it unless people moved to the planet that are indeed sick, How can't you get rid of it there? as well there is no one or anything to spread it. Or do you mean it just isnt the right way to do it

[Cat1337]

I would not go (seeing as how if the people on the planet would lack any resistance to disease's due to there being none) because there would be a pandemic that I was responsible for. So I would kindly decline and be stuck on this giant rock I call home.

[Stir]

I wouldn't go either. I'm sorry, but that planet is screwed as far as humans go. And here's why:
Not allowing any carriers of any diseases to go there... Well, first off, that means no human is allowed, period. :P
But even if some people would be allowed, these people would have no immune systems whatsoever. Furthermore, chances are at least some kind of disease will carry over, or some kind of microbe exists there. Diseases can mutate incredibly quickly; the bubonic plague started out as a single-celled organism that lived in a lake and was completely harmless. When the lake dried out, however, the microbe adapted by evolving (incredibly rapidly) to require a host. If you send humans to a new planet, you're sending millions of microbes to that new planet as well... And you're sending them to a place that doesn't have the specifics of what they require to survive. The result will be a devastating plague in a very, very fragile populace.

I'd rather not be there when trouble starts happening, thanks.

[Jermain]

Mars is a groovy planet, full of groovy Martians.
Jupiter is kinda uptight, but they know how to pour a stiff drink.
Mercury, the chicks are hot, but they'll burn you up so fast.
Pluto ain't a planet no more, that scene been dead since '06
I don't wanna go to Uranus, I don't swing that way
Saturn made a good affordable car, but they don't make those no more.
Venus got the hot chicks, they lay it hot and heavy.
I'm probably forgetting one, it's not important.

Earth is where the cool cats and jive turkeys meet and greet, then get down to the funky beat.

---------- Post added 2012-11-13 at 09:28 PM ----------

Oh, right Neptune. They listen to Dubstep. Avoid Neptune if you can.

[Pandamists]

What do you mean? The chicks on Uranus are wonderful.

[Sole-Warrior]

I would go on the planet it with a protective suit inside a quarantined vehical. I'll Para-Terraform one of the other planets/moons in their solar system (with permission of course )

For those who do not know what that means.


"Paraterraforming involves the construction of a pressurized habitat in the form of an air-tight roof over a particular area on a planet where an Earth-like environment is completely enclosed within the habitat. A modular, “pay-as-you-go” approach of expansion is possible for paraterraforming and this allows it to appropriately meet increasing demand. As the population increases, more pressurized habitats can be constructed over the surface of a planet until most of the planet’s surface is covered or until full terraforming of the planet is eventually achieved."
A more exotic form of terraforming.
http://beyondearthlyskies.blogspot.c...habitable.html

[Deleted]

I don't have a disease and wouldn't really want to go (well, for other reasons than getting away from people who can infect me that is). But if I somehow got it and no one knew I had it, sure, why not unless it's something serious. It would be hard to get treatment on a planet where everyone is supposedly healthy.

Otherwise, ruining such a discriminating system is a plus and an extra incentive to do it. They should better work on curing them than separating the sick from the healthy. Plus its a stupid plan anyway and would never work because we all carry thousands of dormant viruses and bacteria on and in our bodies that are impossible to remove and while we ourselves are immune, they can infect others when they become active.

Not only that but we need beneficial bacteria to survive and nature cant stand an empty spot. If we remove all the "bad" ones, others will mutate to become parasitic over time and the diseases will be back. Only this time you get a bunch of people with weakened immune systems unable to fight it off..

[vizzle]

So many people on this forum don't understand how hypotheticals work. It's not a question for you to nitpick and find problems with. It's obvious enough what the OP is trying to get at by asking it...

[Deleted]

So many people on this forum don't understand how hypotheticals work. It's not a question for you to nitpick and find problems with. It's obvious enough what the OP is trying to get at by asking it...

Even if its hypothetical (which basically means its possible to do it and someone actually does it, not that everyone suddenly thinks its a great idea..), it's still stupid and would cause more problems in the future than it solves. So sabotaging it by going with a disease is actually not that selfish. Plus the only government that can think up something like that is totalitarian.

[vizzle]

Even if its hypothetical (which basically means its possible to do it and someone actually does it, not that everyone suddenly thinks its a great idea..), it's still stupid and would cause more problems in the future than it solves. So sabotaging it by going with a disease is actually not that selfish. Plus the only government that can think up something like that is totalitarian.

It's a thought experiment that revolves around the idea of selfishness. Everyone knows there would be a ton of other issues to consider if this decision ever came to be, but that's not the point of the thread.

[Deleted]

It's a thought experiment that revolves around the idea of selfishness. Everyone knows there would be a ton of other issues to consider if this decision ever came to be, but that's not the point of the thread.

Maybe but I still cant see how going there with a disease would be selfish. It's kinda like crashing a dictators birthday party. It might be frowned upon (mostly by the dictator) but it's not necessarily a bad or selfish thing to do.

Even if you consider that everyone is a bunch or morons and actually think its a good idea, including myself, Id still do it because it's biased and unfair.