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  1. #1001
    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    While it's not 100% Blizzards fault they share some of the blame surely? Or do you think bugs are not their fault? They're not blameless. Last time I checked I don't pay Blizzard every month to be a beta tester.
    Do you have any clue how much code goes into a patch? One wrong character in that code can result in a bug! I want you to write 5 gigs of code, then proof read it and catch every mistake! Let us know how that works out for you? There are bugs in every game ever made and to expect everyone of them to be caught in beta is absolutely absurd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSwain View Post
    *sigh* Silly ignorant kids

    Europe is free from German Fascism and Russian Communism thanks to the USA.

    Your Welcome
    What? The western front didn't have as much of an impact on WWII as you seem to think it did.
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  3. #1003
    Quote Originally Posted by Old View Post
    2) It doesn't affect 99,99% of you, and you probably have no idea how we would use this gear and for how long, but still so many people feel entitled to have strong opinions on the matter.
    This.

    You people are like sheep.

  4. #1004
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSwain View Post
    *sigh* Silly ignorant kids

    Europe is free from German Fascism and Russian Communism thanks to the USA.

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    Oh god please dont talk like the americans won the war single handedly, if it were'nt for the polish cracking the enigma code would all be fucked

  5. #1005
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSwain View Post
    *sigh* Silly ignorant kids

    Europe is free from German Fascism and Russian Communism thanks to the USA.

    Your Welcome
    Sigh... Yeah now when I walk with hitler moustache everyone looks wierd at me, while without your shitty help I would wear it proudly. geee thanks. Plus I'm not a jew, and Hitler did many good things, like supported science and that's why usa landed on the moon - because they stole german engineering, YOUR WELCOME.

  6. #1006
    Firstly, its a privilege to be selected for beta not a job, after all this is a game. A bug is an oversight on blizzards part yes but to exploit it over and over again is not blizzards fault at all. I don't see that all these guilds just innocently found themselves wrapped up in this elaborate exploit. They knew about it, didn't reported it and exploited it over and over and over again. No ones fault but their own.

  7. #1007
    kinda funny could of easily done 15x lfr like we did and come out with the exact same amounts of gear as the guilds that cheated did

  8. #1008
    Quote Originally Posted by Bazkas View Post
    /facepalm

    For it to be considered breaking into a house you only need to cross the outer wall of the house. This includes entering through an unlocked door.
    In my country (South Africa), you can't do squat - can't even shoot them even if they are inside your house and they have broken in. You'd be lucky to get them on a petty crime of "trespassing". Even if you catch them stealing, you're not allowed to do anything to stop them unless they are endangering your life. So, you have to shoot them, plant a knife in their hand (always good to keep a spare) and make damn sure you take care of any witnesses as well by making damn sure they're dead before calling the cops. Also, when you shoot a guy, you are immediately charged with homicide. You are released if you aren't a high risk threat, but then you then need to defend yourself against the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    While it's not 100% Blizzards fault they share some of the blame surely? Or do you think bugs are not their fault? They're not blameless. Last time I checked I don't pay Blizzard every month to be a beta tester.
    It's the responsibility of the community to report bugs that they encounter during the PTR phase of patches. This is the agreement that we sign off on when we enter the PTR. Blizzard lets these people look at content early in exchange for invaluable assistance in squashing bugs - this doesn't mean going out of your way to not report it during Testing and definetly not report it when it happens on live.
    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    Gold and the 'need' for it in-game is easily one of the most overblown mindsets in this community.

  10. #1010
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrianth View Post
    burglary and breaking and entering are just different names for the same thing.
    Uhh NO you are wrong, breaking & entering refers to any structure, as in a shed or unattached garage while burglary refer to an occupied structure or a structure attached to said occupied structure(e.g. attached garage, shed, or out building that is attached to living quarters)!

  11. #1011
    Quote Originally Posted by erdi View Post
    I'm sure Blizzard weighed up the cost of developers' time fixing the bug against the cost of admins banning guilds and determined that the latter would be cheaper.
    Oh, did I miss something? Is the bug still on the Live realms? No?

    Then really, your making a cheap dig and looking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    While it's not 100% Blizzards fault they share some of the blame surely? Or do you think bugs are not their fault? They're not blameless. Last time I checked I don't pay Blizzard every month to be a beta tester.
    But you still agree to abide by their rules every time you patch the game, do you not?

    And I DARE you to program a game as complex as WoW and get rid of every last bug. It is neigh impossible and requires the assistance of those who play. So no, really they share none of the blame. They did their job perfectly and fixed the issues as soon as it was brought to their attention.


    Sigh... Yeah now when I walk with hitler moustache everyone looks wierd at me, while without your shitty help I would wear it proudly. geee thanks. Plus I'm not a jew, and Hitler did many good things, like supported science and that's why usa landed on the moon - because they stole german engineering, YOUR WELCOME.
    He is the one responsible for the Volkswagen! Oh and the deaths of millions of innocent people...but meh...who cares....we have Beetles to drive around in! VROOM VROOM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deatheryn View Post
    Uhh NO you are wrong, breaking & entering refers to any structure, as in a shed or unattached garage while burglary refer to an occupied structure or a structure attached to said occupied structure(e.g. attached garage, shed, or out building that is attached to living quarters)!
    Uh no. They are the same thing.

    Burglary (also called breaking and entering[1] and sometimes housebreaking)[2] is a crime, the essence of which is illicit entry into a building for the purposes of committing an offense. Usually that offense will be theft, but most jurisdictions specify others which fall within the ambit of burglary. To engage in the act of burglary is to burgle (in British English) or to burglarize (in American English).[3]
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  14. #1014
    Quote Originally Posted by mische View Post
    In my country (South Africa), you can't do squat - can't even shoot them even if they are inside your house and they have broken in. You'd be lucky to get them on a petty crime of "trespassing". Even if you catch them stealing, you're not allowed to do anything to stop them unless they are endangering your life. So, you have to shoot them, plant a knife in their hand (always good to keep a spare) and make damn sure you take care of any witnesses as well by making damn sure they're dead before calling the cops. Also, when you shoot a guy, you are immediately charged with homicide. You are released if you aren't a high risk threat, but then you then need to defend yourself against the crime.
    Used to live in Pretoria...i know how you feel, shit is all fucked up down there.

  15. #1015
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrianth View Post
    What? The western front didn't have as much of an impact on WWII as you seem to think it did.
    My grandfarther just rolled over in his grave an said "GO FUCK YOUR SELF"
    I sensed a great disturbance. As if a thousand nerds just cried out at once and then were silenced.

  16. #1016
    It's awesome how butthurt that guy from Method sounds.

    Go Blood Legion!

  17. #1017
    Quote Originally Posted by Deviltry View Post
    Yeah I haven't seen your second bait. And don't know what a newfag is, my english be not so great. And i never proclaimed to be the ultimate troll, but thanks for having this thought (especially calling me intelligent, awww dawg! <3 ), it means a lot from me from such bright man who probably thinks watchmen was good.
    Anything for you, fellow europussy. We have to stick together, don't we?

    That moving was a steaming pile of shit. Don't you dare fuck with the graphic novel though, Cthulhu devouring the city was pure genius.

    Who would've expected such a twist, besides M. Knight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versastyles View Post
    My grandfarther just rolled over in his grave an said "GO FUCK YOUR SELF"
    doesnt make your point more valid just cos your grandpa is butthurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    While it's not 100% Blizzards fault they share some of the blame surely? Or do you think bugs are not their fault? They're not blameless. Last time I checked I don't pay Blizzard every month to be a beta tester.
    No, but when you use the PTR, you are expected to report bugs. Blizzard cant know everything, and depends on you to report bugs when you come across them. The game is huge, and if you decide to take advantage of any bug, you risk being removed from the game. This has been a rule since the beginning. Your reaction is exactly why Blizzard needs to crack down harder on abusers. People would be more willing to report, not exploit.
    "My sword? [Heck] yeah I know how to use it. What's to understand about swish-swish-stab? It's a [freak'n] sword dude, it's not a fighter jet." -Tucker "This One Goes to Eleven

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    I apologize if this has been posted already, but I think this can put an end to insulting Paragon.

    They put out an official statement, apologizing for their actions and acknowledging that what they did was wrong.

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