I think there should be a cap of 2 in certain countries / entities. I would not mind it at all, and believe that most of the people wouldnt.
At the end of the day it really does not make much sense because more kids = use more government resources. So really they should pay more in taxes.
Last edited by Purlina; 2011-12-06 at 04:32 PM.
IF there was an overpopulation issue, I would be down for 3 max. If not, I really wouldn't want to see it done, because it just be over turned in less then a few generations after a war.
"If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.
I was referring to the idea of how we could impose a limit on the number of children. (Instead of forcing abortions and hard limits we could use a system of monetary rewards / punishments.)
Less children = reward
Meet the limit = nothing
More children = punishment
It would make sense because having more children means your family uses more of the Government's recourses.
Last edited by Purlina; 2011-12-06 at 04:35 PM.
I'd rebel, plain and simple. The government has no business infringing upon one of the most basic human rights. I would bring it down. And the whole "overpopulation" thing? Bullshit.
Now, if the government decided that people with more than 2 or 3 kids didn't deserve financial assistance, however... that I would totally agree with.
I would vote yes for a limit on the number of children a couple can have. I even think 2 children is more than enough to pass ones genes along to the next generation. The world's population is already 7 billion people and is projected to reach 9 billion by 2050.
On another note, I also think that in order to have said children, the parents should take an IQ test and anyone that scores below 90 (average) shouldn't be allowed to procreate.
Though, I seriously doubt that most people choose to have children because they get a deduction. I'm sure some scumbag somewhere does, but you get the idea.
If it means the ones I do have can live a better life then sure.
As depressing as it sounds, we are losing land to build upon and the little that is left usually are the last specks of natural wildlife. We only have a finite amount of resources and land to use and yet our population is ever increasing. Something extreme will have to be done eventually or else it will cause a global crisis.
the world have grown in population ALLOT last years, for the world to have food for everyone (when we reach 80 billion its bad... really bad) i recommend ppl getting 1, max 2 childs.
getting 1, will in the long run lower the population, but getting 2 will hold it steady. getting 3 or more will just increase it. im actually not getting more then 2.
I have one child and we're happy with her being an only child so it really wouldn't affect me, but no I dont think it's the government's place to restrict the amount of children you have. However, IF you are receiving welfare/foodstamps and you decide to get pregnant while receiving this money I think your welfare payments should be stopped. The problem isn't people having children, it's people who can't afford to take care of themselves having children for taxpayers to take care of. That is the reason why you see so many people with multiple kids mooching off the system, they get MORE money for each kid they have so they keep having them. If people in middle to upper class families have six kids, it benefits society. If the poor family on welfare has two kids, that's two more people mooching off the system and likely contributing nothing.
How would it work, would the limit be per person, per couple, per household etc? I have 4 children in my house hold, the eldest is mine from a previous relationship, her sister who is not blood related to me or my current partner my partners daughter from a previous relationship and our daughter together. How would that work with a limit on children you can have?
Reminds me of a topic the other day about kill 1, save 1000, or save 1 and 1000 die.
Think about it, 95% (yes I made that up but you get the idea) are ugly/stupid/assholes that contribute nothing to the planet and quite frankly we could do without.
I'm all for capping it at 2~3 kids per couple, but if people want more then the government should support them less.
-couple for a short time - only 1 birth allowed
-couple for more then 15 years - only 2 births allowed
- split couple with 1 birth (counts for both partners), both persons refind a couple - they can have a second birth with their new partners
- split with 1 birth, both people in a new couple for 15 years - 2 more births allowed (so 3 in total)
- split twice, having two births, one had with each partner, they can have one more with third partner
- split twice, having two births, one with each partner, in the new couple for more then 15 years - still one, since it's third birth.
-children die at birth or in the first 15 years
-children have big mutations that affect their lives
In these cases the people get one more chance.
You can't pay for more then three, the most you can do is, if together for 25 years, pay to get the third birth with same couple if still together(meaning that if you got together and made a child at 15... let's say, at 40 you'd get your last birth if in same couple).
No other exceptions allowed.
I think it's a tough thing to gauge. You can say cap it at 2, but to what extent? My dad had 2 kids with my mom, then they got divorced. Do their numbers get reset? He remarried and had 2 more kids with my stepmom. Is it fair if you cap it at 2 per person to tell my stepmom she cannot have any kids because my dad already did? I'd go with no.
Is it 2 kids total, or just 2 non-adult kids? My sister and I are adults, so would my dad and stepmom be exempt and able to have kids when my sister and I were no longer minors/dependents (my half-brothers were born when I was 13 and 15). This seems to damned complicated to work.
If you cap, is that just naturally-born kids? If you say 2 is the limit, what if a family adopts 2, then wants to have one of their own flesh and blood? Is that allowed?
Probably the biggest question though is: HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THIS? Say we go back to my parents. They had myself and my older sister. If that cap is at 2, what happens if my mom got pregnant? Would they fine her (on TOP of the cost of raising a kid?!)? Would they force an abortion upon her? Woudl they require all parents with 2 kids to get fixed like dogs or cats?
Honestly, child limits are a great way to slow population growth, but as is the case with pretty much anything like this, having the government mandate these things is a colossal disaster waiting to happen...over and over and over again.
I think two is enough...