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  1. #81
    1-2 works for me. After that you get vasectomy/tubes tied.

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    Does the cap reset every wednesday ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattaclysmic View Post
    except that many here are americans, and those who disagree the most with the nanny state when it comes to welfare and whatnot... But i guess its alright as long as its THEIR fascist state
    Not all Americans have the same ideals, my guess is alot of the same people advocating a controlled birth policy are more in favor of socialist-esque ideas than myself.

  4. #84
    I want 2 kids, I have one now. That's enough, so I wouldn't care if they capped it.

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    Well, i don't believe for a children cap. Because the more rich your country is, the less children you get. And this is due to in less fortunate countries, you need your children to support you when you get older, which i for myself, disagree with, as the children isn't made out of love, just financial safety as you get old.

  6. #86
    I'd be okay with a birthing limit, to be honest although it's a freedom that many people in the US enjoy, the dwindling resources of this planet are everyones responsibility and have a ludicrous amount of children will most likely lead to a ludicrous amount of children over the course of a few generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stings View Post
    Well, i don't believe for a children cap. Because the more rich your country is, the less children you get. And this is due to in less fortunate countries, you need your children to support you when you get older, which i for myself, disagree with, as the children isn't made out of love, just financial safety as you get old.
    Look at it this way, they better treat those kids right or they're not gonna get the retirement outta them anyway.

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    I would vote it down.

    Number of children per family isn't a real problem, it's what people do with their children and how they decide to have them that is the real concern. I could not imagine having 20 children (I have one child atm, working on #2) but if a family did have 20, and they were all cared for and properly educated and raising (bit slippery slopes there, I know) then it would be fine. If the same family had 20 kids to increase their welfare check, then no, not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herpderpslurp View Post
    i guess you dont think that other women have the same right to their reproductive decisions as you do?
    I guess other people are able to read more than the first line of a post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marimba View Post
    Not all Americans have the same ideals, my guess is alot of the same people advocating a controlled birth policy are more in favor of socialist-esque ideas than myself.
    I, personally, am not an advocate for socialism, but for certain situations if you wish people to conform then sometimes you need to provide for them the tools to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by KingHorse View Post
    It's like the collective psyche of WoW can't get over the sub loss, so when so much as a hotfix is announced, it's due to the sub loss. Tuesday maintenance? Due to the sub loss. Your loot didn't drop? Due to the sub loss. Your girlfriend left you? It's clearly due to the sub loss. Constipated? OBVIOUSLY because of the sub loss.

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    No. Making intelligent and responsible decisions shouldn't require government mandate or bribery.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    This is America. We always have warm dead bodies.
    if we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Given View Post
    Cap at 1.. i absolutely hate childeren. so dont listen to me
    You and me brother.

    The more kids you have, the more the state/country likely has to pay for it. Point you towards the OctoMom fiasco. It is very rare that the parents can support a giant family.
    Last edited by Sammonoske; 2011-12-06 at 07:17 PM.

  12. #92
    It would never happen in this country. We pride ourselves on being a melting pot of religion and other cultures. Until we shed away from this as our distinction something like limiting the amount of children you could have isn't possible. Some religions and cultures pride themselves on large families. China on the other hand is a communist state, they decide what is best for their people to believe in so that is why they get away with a cap on population.

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    I'd be against a set cap, i'm more pro a cap on the amount of children you can get benefits for/support from the government. Say 2-3 children per couple, any more than that and the government give you no more money than for the 2-3 you already had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammonoske View Post
    Point you towards the OctoMom fiasco.
    An example of an emotionally unstable woman being given access to the tools and the ability to use them in order to draw attention to herself, isn't she living in poverty now too? The fact that she was allowed to do something so stupid is going to cause the products of her instability (her poor children for those not keeping up) to suffer, last I heard of her was my boyfriends mother watching Dr. Phil and she was crying about how she can't support her kids. Also didn't she go through fertility treatment again and has more than 8 children now? Or am I thinking of another woman...
    Quote Originally Posted by KingHorse View Post
    It's like the collective psyche of WoW can't get over the sub loss, so when so much as a hotfix is announced, it's due to the sub loss. Tuesday maintenance? Due to the sub loss. Your loot didn't drop? Due to the sub loss. Your girlfriend left you? It's clearly due to the sub loss. Constipated? OBVIOUSLY because of the sub loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommypilgrim View Post
    I'd be fine capping at 3.
    Perfection there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marimba View Post
    Not all Americans have the same ideals, my guess is alot of the same people advocating a controlled birth policy are more in favor of socialist-esque ideas than myself.
    actually i saw the very same arguments in the 15 kids woman thread

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    If children would've been capped at 3-4 after the great depression, or perhaps years before, the US would be so much better off. If you think about it, the responsible people in the country who have jobs and go to school and make something of themselves, have maybe 2-3 kids on average. Those kids tend to turn out fairly well raised and run the same course that their parents did.

    On the flip side, people who drop out of school, work shitty jobs that barely have the financial gain to support themselves, or are on welfare, birth children like rats. Those kids are then raised in a shitty environment, probably have a shitty school district and are probably not taught values or responsibilities since their parents have none.

    Basically, intelligent people have controlled breeding, unintelligent people have no concept on how much they hurt society and fuck like rabbits consequently.

  18. #98
    If more than the alotted amount of children are born, higher taxes/fees are given to the parents, death of the child is not forced.

  19. #99
    I'd be fine with a cap of 2. Then again, I hope I don't ever have even 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarynn View Post
    I, personally, am not an advocate for socialism, but for certain situations if you wish people to conform then sometimes you need to provide for them the tools to do so.
    Meh, I was just takin a stab at a generalization, sorry if I was coming across as "all-knowing" on where people lie on the political spectrum.

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