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  1. #41
    Do not sense any light, therefore you see black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedweight View Post
    But in the case of the OP's question Franklin would be right, it wouldn't be black or white or light or dark, it would simply be nothing since they would have no concept as to what white or black or light or dark are.
    Exactly, Because when you cannot see, you really can't see therefore you cannot compare a something with something haven't seen.
    Asking someone who's blind what he see's, might be might be nothing. But he may sense due to developed other senses, how his environments sort of looks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4KhazModan View Post
    Do not sense any light, therefore you see black.
    But black requires the ability of seeing, if you do not have this ability you cannot see the color. Therefore you see nothing.
    If you do not see your literally see nothing. Because there is nothing to absorb information with and transmit it to your brain. Therefore a blind person cannot discribe how it is to not see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadem View Post
    Exactly, Because when you cannot see, you really can't see therefore you cannot compare a something with something haven't seen.
    Asking someone who's blind what he see's, might be might be nothing. But he may sense due to developed other senses, how his environments sort of looks

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    But black requires the ability of seeing, if you do not have this ability you cannot see the color. Therefore you see nothing.
    If you do not see your literally see nothing. Because there is nothing to absorb information with and transmit it to your brain. Therefore a blind person cannot discribe how it is to not see.
    Sorry, but their brains were still made to see. They'll perceive blackness with some random shapes and stuff thrown in by their brain (because for some reason it doesn't like to see only blackness).

  4. #44
    nothing, you lack the ability to see anything... it's like telling someone to move their tail as a cat would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadem View Post

    But black requires the ability of seeing, if you do not have this ability you cannot see the color. Therefore you see nothing.
    If you do not see your literally see nothing. Because there is nothing to absorb information with and transmit it to your brain. Therefore a blind person cannot discribe how it is to not see.
    They lack the ability to sense light. In the deepest depths of the ocean known as the aphotic zone, it is complete blackness. Blackness is the absence of light: an object that is colored black reflects no light.

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    I would think there would be an absence of that sense all together. Meaning you don't see anything. It would be like not having any of your other senses. Like a stuffy nose, the information just isn't coming in. No optic nerves firing means no information or input so.... nothing. Hard to imagine unless you have lived it and have never experienced anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4KhazModan View Post
    They lack the ability to sense light. In the deepest depths of the ocean known as the aphotic zone, it is complete blackness. Blackness is the absence of light: an object that is colored black reflects no light.
    But that black zone requires the ability to see to be recognized. Or else it's nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franklinn View Post
    I would say that that is something that would be impossible to confirm, because what is "black" and "white" is all in perspective of what you are taught and adjusted to. If there is no light how can there be darkness?

    Its a hard concept to understand, but blindness would be something like "nothing". Not black or white or light or dark, just nothing.
    Don`t be a wise guy
    They see the same as if you lock yourself in a dark room for a long time, pitch black total darkness

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by bany View Post
    Don`t be a wise guy
    They see the same as if you lock yourself in a dark room for a long time, pitch black total darkness
    Your eyes are required to work to able to recognize black and white, if you're completely blind you do not see anything. Your eyes do not sense the amount of light and do not transmit anything to the brain, therefore nothing seen and no one can describe what blind people see, not even blind people can.

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    It's not ABOUT recognition of what they see. Their brain was still designed to receive input from their eyes. If their eyes are transmitting no data, the brain is receiving no data and therefore they 'see' what we define as 'black'. It DOES NOT MATTER they cannot perceive that they are 'seeing black' but that is what they are 'seeing'. Without visual input the brain defaults to black, this lack of visual input may come from blindness, or complete absence of light.

    Someone mentioned earlier that blind people also 'see' shapes and lines, but that is not 'seeing', it is imagining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadem View Post
    Your eyes are required to work to able to recognize black and white, if you're completely blind you do not see anything. Your eyes do not sense the amount of light and do not transmit anything to the brain, therefore nothing seen and no one can describe what blind people see, not even blind people can.
    It's been said like 4 times now, their brains were still designed to receive input from their eyes. It's the same as if somebody is in a completely dark rook. They see blackness.

  13. #53
    they don't see anything. Hence blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ogdru Jahad View Post
    When I was young...I did that and literally freaked out thinking something was wrong with me...scariest shit of my life.
    I was too busy watching the colors and patterns.

    Your brain probably still has a visual section, but with retinas (or optic nerves) not working I would have to say it would be a similar effect to that trippy effect. (At least if it is a problem with retinas, optic nerves is another question). Your brain can perceive sight, but it gets no signal, so it might make its own things (Similar to dreaming).
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Ford
    Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably why few engage in it.
    This explains a lot.

  15. #55
    They see the same thing a deaf person hears. They see the same thing a numb limb feels.

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    You see clear.

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    Darkness is what you'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capers View Post
    It's like asking what language do deaf people think in. Pretty trippy stuff.
    Goddammit now that's bugging me

    What language do they think in???
    Putin khuliyo

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    People are born without echolocation.

    What do they "see"? Nothing.

    So why would you expect a blind person, who lacks the sense, to even comprehend what sight even is?

    As for your "black, white" thing. It's like the difference between 0, and null. 0 is still something, it just has a value of nothing. That would be black. Null is the complete absence of anything. They don't see white. They don't see black. They just don't see.
    Last edited by Larynx; 2011-12-07 at 05:30 AM.

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    You guys are all way off - go watch Daredevil. It's clear to all that blind people see some sort of sonar, especially when it rains!

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