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  1. #921
    Class stacking is clearly hacking... Damn those Koreans for stacking Mages.... or

  2. #922
    @foolishness
    In the case of Nef, it was somekind of a exploit that got hotfixed like 1 or 2 days after

  3. #923
    KIN Raiders said they had about 300+ tries for the Spine and 108 tries for Madness

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  5. #925
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    To everyone saying that the resets gave them double the staves, they head 19, 4 of which were from people joining the guild right before 4.3. While paragon had 27 staves, so the double reset did not give them any advantage at all. Paragon's alts were all fully geared out in 4.2 heroic gear, KIN was not ahead of anyone in anything but skill and tactics.

  6. #926
    Quote Originally Posted by Knaar View Post
    @foolishness
    In the case of Nef, it was somekind of a exploit that got hotfixed like 1 or 2 days after
    Ya, they were rooting the adds, right? Regardless, it was class stacking and resulted in a WF end boss kill, no? Hell rooting had WAY more of change on the encounter then legendaries.

  7. #927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knaar View Post
    @foolishness
    In the case of Nef, it was somekind of a exploit that got hotfixed like 1 or 2 days after
    in the case of Nef, there were no exploits involved, the ability worked as it should be, blizzard overlooked the fact that DoT-classes scaled so high with that buff
    => see paragon's using feral druids due to rip. They could have used fire mages or locks instead but they don't bring what druids can, like tranqs, roots.

    hence the reason blizzard changed the buff.

  8. #928
    Quote Originally Posted by Burritaco View Post
    It's like watching a sport, it's like the superbowl being a completely blowout game, it's just stupid.
    Oh wow. So you play in the superbowl?

  9. #929
    IF double resets at the end of the old contents for two months gave KIN that much advantages (which is a completely hilarious attempt at bringing their achievement down).. new patch always coming out 1-2 days later than everyone has been a big disadvantage for them since the beginning of WoW. Idk what to say more.

  10. #930
    Quote Originally Posted by foolishness View Post
    Ya, they were rooting the adds, right?
    Oo no they didnt.

  11. #931
    Quote Originally Posted by Culexus View Post
    Oo no they didnt.
    Right on, must have been speculation or something that with time turned into fact in my head. Regardless, class stacking is nothing new or exploiting game mechanics (soul stoning 15/25 people in your raid). I keep harping on Paragon but I have nothing against them. I just think people are missing the point that WFs will tend to have some bit of controversy attached to them.

  12. #932
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    fucking amazing! congrats to KIN Raiders

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    Quote Originally Posted by blgdinger View Post
    best post of this thread lol
    I agree, grats to Kin.

  14. #934
    I don't care about the class stacking one way or the other, but concerning Paragon vs Nef, it wasn't an exploit. 5 CP Rip is simply the highest damage per application attack in the game, (or at least it was at the time) that could be used on demand without any kind of setup like arcane blast, or combustion. They used ferals because of the mind control debuff you got. It lead to feral druids doing insane dps on that encounter.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

  15. #935
    The actual KIN members posted a couple reviews on the encounter.

    I'm not going to translate it all but if I may highlight one...

    "Madness was easier than the Spine fight, we only took one attempt on the day of kill."

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    The death of Kim Jung Il granted them strength to kill Madness
    Quote Originally Posted by Elementium View Post
    People so addicted that they're actually angry at Blizzard for WoW getting old >.< Insulting WoW because your tired of it is like hating your dad because he's older than you and not as fun as your friends.

  17. #937
    i wonder what all the fuss about. awesome 11th Raggy guild kills DW WF since 4 top guilds got banned... what in the hell is surprising here ?
    let's see if any of those banned guilds will kill it too this reset potentially spending even less time than Kin Raiders... i know that motivation is different but still for me that would be interesting...

    it's almost like when Usain Bolt lost his World 100m crown after he was disqualified for a false start... but still everyone knows who is the fastest man on earth :-)

  18. #938
    Quote Originally Posted by kinneer View Post
    Oh wow. So you play in the superbowl?
    Can you read?

    It's like watching a sport, it's like the superbowl being a completely blowout game, it's just stupid.
    It's like watching a sport, it's like the superbowl being a completely blowout game, it's just stupid.
    It's like watching a sport, it's like the superbowl being a completely blowout game, it's just stupid.
    It's like watching a sport, it's like the superbowl being a completely blowout game, it's just stupid.

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    Between them full clearing LFR and reg versions of the raid on about 9 times in addition to the twice weekly raid resets I think these guys deserve the World First kill. However with the twice weekly resets may have halved the amount of time that it would take in the US and EU.

  20. #940
    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Between them full clearing LFR and reg versions of the raid on about 9 times in addition to the twice weekly raid resets I think these guys deserve the World First kill. However with the twice weekly resets may have halved the amount of time that it would take in the US and EU.
    As has been said numerous times already in this thread, the double lockouts only applies to earlier raid tiers, and wasn't applied until late October. All they got was 6 extra Firelands lockouts, nothing that had any actual impact on the race. Please stop bringing this up.

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