즐거운공격대 World First on Heroic Madness of Deathwing

[Linkedblade]

Between them full clearing LFR and reg versions of the raid on about 9 times in addition to the twice weekly raid resets I think these guys deserve the World First kill. However with the twice weekly resets may have halved the amount of time that it would take in the US and EU.

[darkwarrior42]

Between them full clearing LFR and reg versions of the raid on about 9 times in addition to the twice weekly raid resets I think these guys deserve the World First kill. However with the twice weekly resets may have halved the amount of time that it would take in the US and EU.

As has been said numerous times already in this thread, the double lockouts only applies to earlier raid tiers, and wasn't applied until late October. All they got was 6 extra Firelands lockouts, nothing that had any actual impact on the race. Please stop bringing this up.

[Gilian]

To everyone saying that the resets gave them double the staves, they head 19, 4 of which were from people joining the guild right before 4.3. While paragon had 27 staves, so the double reset did not give them any advantage at all. Paragon's alts were all fully geared out in 4.2 heroic gear, KIN was not ahead of anyone in anything but skill and tactics.

I am seriously still doubting about that. Not about that Paragon has more staves but that KIN Raiders have some special tactic that Paragon or other guilds can't figure out for days after the WF Spine kill. This game is not THAT complex. I really want to see how they did it.
And skill, well... let's be honest you really think individual skill really still matters at that level or teamwork for that matter? WoW is really not that hard. Maybe there is a miniscule difference but it's still more about resources and dedication and then who comes up with a good tactic first. Those other guilds are not stupid, not stupid enough to need a week longer to find a tactic that works.

There are now two more Spine kills by Stars and Silent (never heard of Silent). Maybe there is some sort of tactic/trick that the others haven't figured out yet. They better post a video of their Spine kill or maybe they want to see the others sweat a little more ;p.

[Brytryne]

I am seriously still doubting about that. Not about that Paragon has more staves but that KIN Raiders have some special tactic that Paragon or other guilds can't figure out for days after the WF Spine kill. This game is not THAT complex. I really want to see how they did it.
And skill, well... let's be honest you really think individual skill really still matters at that level or teamwork for that matter? WoW is really not that hard. Maybe there is a miniscule difference but it's still more about resources and dedication and then who comes up with a good tactic first. Those other guilds are not stupid, not stupid enough to need a week longer to find a tactic that works.

There are now two more Spine kills by Stars and Silent (never heard of Silent). Maybe there is some sort of tactic/trick that the others haven't figured out yet. They better post a video of their Spine kill or maybe they want to see the others sweat a little more ;p.

They got the staves, but do they have the shamans? ^^

[fogel]

I am seriously still doubting about that. Not about that Paragon has more staves but that KIN Raiders have some special tactic that Paragon or other guilds can't figure out for days after the WF Spine kill. This game is not THAT complex. I really want to see how they did it.

You're absolutely right. No one could come up with a unique tactic except Paragon. I mean c'mon! They're Finns! Even back in the day (Yogg0) Paragon had the exact same tactic as STARS, but they simply decided to take some time off, because they did not want to be in the spotlight again.

I'm not saying that I'm sure the kill happened without any "creative use of game mechanics" or "exploits". I just think it's kind of biased to imply that there is no possibility of an "unknown" guild coming up with a unique tactic.

EDIT: I apologize in advance for a) my bad English b) just making this about Paragon. I am in no way a hater.

[bajskorv]

It's been clear from the beginning that V/BL stands no real chance, either Inner Sanctum or Paragon will definitely get the 1st Western kills of both remaining encounters.
All good raiders in the world reside east of the Atlantic.

Everyone is east of the Atlantic, if you go far enough.

[Maldriel]

Between them full clearing LFR and reg versions of the raid on about 9 times in addition to the twice weekly raid resets I think these guys deserve the World First kill. However with the twice weekly resets may have halved the amount of time that it would take in the US and EU.

Srsly, do you just post crap? Or actually inform yourself before you post?
About 500 people alone in mmo pointed out that the double reset was only for FL to make them catch up with our ilvl average...

OT: Gratz but next time keep the race on a little longer
It's no fun to watch this madness
"Hey we killed spine and the day after tomorrow we will down madness" - KIN Raiders ^^