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Hi, my guild is attempting Hagara HM right now on 10 man. For some reason, shattered ice is hitting some of our players for 170k to 250k with cooldowns up and no stacks of the ice lance debuff. Anyone else experiencing this?
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2011-12-22, 04:55 AM #1High Overlord
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Hagara HM Bugged?
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2011-12-22, 04:56 AM #2Deleted
Only with several stacks of the icelance debuff, never without.
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2011-12-22, 05:11 AM #3High Overlord
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But how many stacks would one have to have to get hit for 257k? Seems like it would be 15+ and taking ice lance that high is unhealable. Seems like a bug to me.
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2011-12-22, 05:13 AM #4High Overlord
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One of the 10-man guilds on our server reported seeing this issue too. They said it stopped happening to them this week; got their first time kill.
Originally Posted by natijs4
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2011-12-22, 05:14 AM #5Mechagnome
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Not a bug, our shaman was getting hit for ~180k after ~6-7 stacks. Easier to just swap every 4
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2011-12-22, 05:22 AM #6High Overlord
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Read my post. Our boomkin got hit for 170k with barkskin up and 0 stacks. Originally Posted by Rezhial
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2011-12-22, 06:07 AM #7High Overlord
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I call BS on 0 stacks. It definitely is buggy and hits for 150k-180k with 2-4 stacks, but I've never seen anyone hit remotely hard without stacks.
Anyways, grounding totem the ones you can, and trade the ice lances at 3. Typically we never see more than 1 person get 1 shot over the entire fight if any, so we can always just res them if you do frost/lightning correctly.
Bug wise, this fight is just irritating. HF, I know we did not.
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2011-12-22, 06:37 AM #8Brewmaster
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our druid just died with 0 stacks. It was the very first shattered ice cast in the encounter.
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2011-12-22, 06:39 AM #9Herald of the Titans
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It's not a bug, read Ice Lance and then ask yourself if your raid is doing something wrong.
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2011-12-22, 06:56 AM #10High Overlord
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Read my post. I'm looking at our logs now. People have 0 stacks and are getting hit for over 170k. I clearly have read Ice Lance as in my initial post, I talked about Ice Lance stacks debuff. Originally Posted by Varyk
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2011-12-22, 07:00 AM #11Stood in the Fire
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With 1 stack our priest got hit for 190k so I guess it's a bit bugged... (1 STACK, yes.)
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2011-12-22, 08:37 AM #12Pandaren Monk
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Question. Shattered Ice is and instant cast on a random target. For what reason would your boomkin have barkskin up if he wasn't getting hit by Ice Lances?
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2011-12-22, 08:40 AM #13Deleted
It can oneshot priests without them having any stacks
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2011-12-22, 08:42 AM #14Pandaren Monk
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Well the base damage is 150k so yes it can 1 shot people. Thing is any form of resistance is enough to drop it down to manageable levels. We've never seen anyone get hit for over 100k at 0 stacks.
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2011-12-22, 08:43 AM #15Blademaster
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Do you have a shaman? Grounding totem ftw.
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2011-12-22, 08:55 AM #16Brewmaster
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Expanding on this, we had about 3 people get 1 shot tonight at sub 3 stacks, all for well over 190k damage (I think the druid got hit for 200k with 0 stacks). Originally Posted by Frozendekay
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2011-12-22, 11:23 AM #17I am Murloc!
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wanna take bets how long it will last? Valiona grounding was fixed the same week it became well known Originally Posted by enjay
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2011-12-22, 11:44 AM #18Deleted
As long as it last, the spell (grounding totem) it's doing what it's supposed to do and it should be used. Although hagara already got his share of hotfixes, it seems strange to leave this one out if it's not intended. Anyways, at least in 10 man you usually won't have that many shamans to completely pass over the mechanic... If it were for class abilities making mechanics far easier, the first one to get the shaft here will be the hunters and its aspect of the pack. Now that's OP here.
OT never saw this. Sometimes one of our raiders claimed to have no stacks and still got oneshot, but a log check always probed otherwise.
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2011-12-22, 12:37 PM #19Deleted
>> Grounding totem ftw.
> Valiona grounding was fixed the same week it became well known
The BIG difference between valiona's blackout and ice lances is that blackout was a ONE-hit damage for all the raid, so the grounding totem would remove everything for everyone.
Using grounding totem here will remove ONE single hit of ONE ice lance. THus it's not overpowered, compared to blackout removal, and won't be "fixed".
TL
R : using grounding totem on hagara is a good thing, as it might help soak part of the damage. It's not über powerful but it's there to be used !
not only 50+50=100, but 1+1+1+1+1...=100. Every part of the raid, as small as it is works and counts toward the desired objective
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2011-12-22, 02:36 PM #20Field Marshal
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Question for Grounding Totem, will it always grab the Shattered Ice at any time or it can absorb a ice lance and be a waste?
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