Bounty Hunter/Trooper general talk

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Oh right. My bad, changed to melee dps now. While it can be at range when needed being in melee is ideal, so I dont add melee to mid-range right now too.
Also nice to know you can link abilities with darthhater site like that. Time to add some links

[Jaronicity]

The single target priority for Vanguard Shield Specialist is as follows:

Awesome! I wasn't TOO far off with what I had been doing based on the abilities I had lol. Great post!

[looopy]

Quality thread, I would add each specs pvp viability. I have found AS vanguard to be extremely effective

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Added some talents and talk about cylinders. If someone knows healing talent builds do tell, personally not that into it yet (as I chose powertech)

Thanks for the feedback so far too

[Jaronicity]

Should I be able to tank and survive 4-5 elites pounding on me? I just did a heroic quest (never finished) and I was taking a shit ton of damage and the healer said he was having trouble keeping me up. I was under the impression we should have been ccing more but I think my plea had fallen on deaf ears. What's the verdict on that? Just dinged 19 and have about 1900 armor. Gear is pretty shit since I have had trouble getting groups for Flashpoints.

[looopy]

sticky please

[Deleted]

4-5 Elites on you means you melt, especially early on. The healer simply doesn't have enough tools at his disposal to keep you up and your defensive options are limited. This is a game where CC matters. A lot. That means that other classes CC while you and the DPS position the remaining mobs and are careful with AoE.

Luckily all long-term CC is long-term. 60 seconds is enough to kill most things.

To give an example I did a couple of Heroic Quests on Alderaan where the tank simply refused to wait for CC. He would die in 10 seconds from 2 strongs/2 elites, leaving me to tank with my own trooper (although specced DPS - just switched Cells/Stances). We wiped 3-4 times until he got fed up and left, we got another player instead and CCed our way to victory, never wiping again and finishing both quests in 15 minutes. Creative thinking and tactics win the game, not brute WOTLK AoE style play.

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Should I be able to tank and survive 4-5 elites pounding on me? I just did a heroic quest (never finished) and I was taking a shit ton of damage and the healer said he was having trouble keeping me up. I was under the impression we should have been ccing more but I think my plea had fallen on deaf ears. What's the verdict on that? Just dinged 19 and have about 1900 armor. Gear is pretty shit since I have had trouble getting groups for Flashpoints.

Depends a lot on the group, both in gear and skill. Also some heroics and their mobs are notably harder than others. Also can't think what cooldowns you would get at this level, as I use oil slick on pull when tanking groups.

Not really trying to be vague just saying there are a few factors to account for. For a lot of the heroics with the gold standard elites(champions I think) the groups have CCed 1 or 2 targets. Fortunately on my server people are quite happy to CC and healers tend to point out whether or not they are healer specced(which makes more and more difference further on)

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To give an example I did a couple of Heroic Quests on Alderaan where the tank simply refused to wait for CC. He would die in 10 seconds from 2 strongs/2 elites, leaving me to tank with my own trooper (although specced DPS - just switched Cells/Stances). We wiped 3-4 times until he got fed up and left, we got another player instead and CCed our way to victory, never wiping again and finishing both quests in 15 minutes. Creative thinking and tactics win the game, not brute WOTLK AoE style play.

Yeah this is nice to see. Did the Alderaan heroic that is a small room with mobs on two levels. Had to discuss tactics after a couple of nasty pulls but we got through it and it was very satisfying to complete, and really the main reason I play MMOs.

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Shameless bumb from death and added link to nice thread on dps section

[looopy]

i wish more people would post on this, i found it helpful