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  1. #21
    What Blizzard needs to do is make a dumbed down version of raids with simple mechanics that drops lower item level loot so the casuals have something to do and leave the real raiding to the hardcore players.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Derpyhooves View Post
    What Blizzard needs to do is make a dumbed down version of raids with simple mechanics that drops lower item level loot so the casuals have something to do and leave the real raiding to the hardcore players.
    that's lfr right there
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    This is a game, and yet a "a whole bunch" of people treat it with a seriousness that would befit solving the world hunger or saving the planet.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Rixis View Post
    unfortunately on these forums bas are bads, so we call them casuals? :P

    regarding my playtime, i'm anything but casual, i play many many hours per day, but my raid progress is only 5/8 normal (i'm also not bad, i just like playing with a set of friends, and to play with them means playing with a bunch of less than adequately skilled people, so progress is stunted)

    but yeah, casuals are casual, bads are casual, some casuals are bads, not all casuals are bad

    it's like holland, go to holland and you're in the netherlands, go to the netherlands and you ain't neccesarily in holland
    this guy up there has not been laid in 6 years, i think we should invest in a simple fix for him rather then a tube of vasaline and moms playgirl magazines......i mean dads playboy's.

    Mod Edit: No need for the personal insults.
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  4. #24
    Guess the SWTOR servers are down again.

    Seriously, this person is beyond sad. Not to mention that all the people crying the most about LFR seem to call themselves "pro" or "hardcore". Myself, being a very laid back but still driven and interested player, almost never encounter these horror pugs so I guess either these "pros" are contributing to the baddies, or they're just blowing everything out of proportion because they care too much about the game.

    /Casual and damn proud to have a life and still be able to put effort into the game when I play.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by micho View Post
    that's lfr right there
    I guess its true sarcasm doesn't work well in text form.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Face it, we all know what the term "casual" is synonymous with, so i'll refer to this situation with the term "casual"

    So to be clear, I only gear my 2 mains in DS heroic, now that we are 5/8 heroic DS.

    I do however occasionally join LFR with a few guild buddies now and then to get a good laugh, and gear alts. Today was especially laughable because some "casual" was defending the "casuals" who were afk, and pulling less than 10k dps. I mean seriously, doesnt the "casual" community get irritated at seeing this? I mean if you cant pull 10k+ dps just auto attacking, something is seriously wrong and you shouldnt be in even LOLFR. How can you stand when people go afk, dps is below tanks, and 2 healers are pulling the rest of the healers weight?

    Is this your pinnacle of "seeing content"? Is this what you have been wanting all these years?

    I literally facepalmed when this particular LFR group couldnt manage to kill warlord after 4 attempts. My buddies and I just left the "casuals" to face their EPIC content.

    Anyone else have LFR woes?

    It is LFR for a reason.

    What is the difference between you and them?

    You apparently have more skill overall compared to them right?

    So while you are wiping on 5/8heroic DS they are wiping on their 5/8LFR. When you clear H Madness you will rejoice in happiness, and when they clear LFR Madness, the same will happen with them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sielson View Post
    Bads are bad. So we call them bad.
    However, bad is a very subjective term. For me, bad is the rogue in my LFR pug doing 12k DPS and who dies on every fight. For you, bad might be any player who isn't 4/8 heroic in DS 25. For somebody else, bad might be any player who isn't 2.2k+ rated in 3s.

    The only reason people use the term is because they are too lazy to accurately describe what they are referring to using longer statements.
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  8. #28
    I'm a casual player and still manage to out DPS most people who aren't already rocking out normal and heroic Tier 13 stuff. On both my Enhancement Shaman and my Shadow Priest, both of which crowning achievement for Cataclysm thus far has been to get their Tier 12 two-piece bonus. So yeah, casual doesn't mean bad.

    There are, however, a ton of bad people in LFR. I kick AFKers. But I'll also kick someone pulling 50k DPS if they're being a whiny little bitch about everything.

    As long as we kill stuff and don't wipe to stupid crap, I don't care how much DPS anyone other than myself does. I go in there and worry about myself.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Face it, we all know what the term "casual" is synonymous with, so i'll refer to this situation with the term "casual"

    So to be clear, I only gear my 2 mains in DS heroic, now that we are 5/8 heroic DS.

    I do however occasionally join LFR with a few guild buddies now and then to get a good laugh, and gear alts. Today was especially laughable because some "casual" was defending the "casuals" who were afk, and pulling less than 10k dps. I mean seriously, doesnt the "casual" community get irritated at seeing this? I mean if you cant pull 10k+ dps just auto attacking, something is seriously wrong and you shouldnt be in even LOLFR. How can you stand when people go afk, dps is below tanks, and 2 healers are pulling the rest of the healers weight?

    Is this your pinnacle of "seeing content"? Is this what you have been wanting all these years?

    I literally facepalmed when this particular LFR group couldnt manage to kill warlord after 4 attempts. My buddies and I just left the "casuals" to face their EPIC content.

    Anyone else have LFR woes?
    So let me get this straight. You and your elitist guildies join a LFR for the sole purpose of laughing at "casuals" (I think you mean "baddies", but whatever), had that fulfilled, and decided to make a post about it? Bias much? Of course you're going to hate it when you joined it JUST to feel better about yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Well yeah, you kick the bads if they are causing and contributing to wipes (aka low dps, afkers, suck ass healers). The good players have enough of a time carrying everyone else. The problem with my situation was there was some douche telling the raid not to kick the bad players, And the other bads listened to him.. and the wipe fest continued... /facepalm
    Now I'm confused. You and your buddies are having a hard time "carrying everyone else"? LFR is hard for a guild 5/8 hardmode?

    The problem with the situation wasn't that there was some douche not wanting to kick the bad players. The problem was there was an elitist douche trying to kick people who were in the EASY mode for whatever reason. Perhaps they needed to learn the fight, perhaps they're less skilled gamers, perhaps they just like to see stuff, etc.
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    i wanna kick that tubby RL in the bag from blood legion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    Guess the SWTOR servers are down again.

    Seriously, this person is beyond sad. Not to mention that all the people crying the most about LFR seem to call themselves "pro" or "hardcore". Myself, being a very laid back but still driven and interested player, almost never encounter these horror pugs so I guess either these "pros" are contributing to the baddies, or they're just blowing everything out of proportion because they care too much about the game.

    /Casual and damn proud to have a life and still be able to put effort into the game when I play.
    Oh btw there not, I'm playing right now as I type this :P

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Mindark View Post
    So let me get this straight. You and your elitist guildies join a LFR for the sole purpose of laughing at "casuals" (I think you mean "baddies", but whatever), had that fulfilled, and decided to make a post about it? Bias much? Of course you're going to hate it when you joined it JUST to feel better about yourself.
    They can't have much to brag about IRL if they do that, I have to say. And I'm normally not one to speculate about such things, but the way this person acts just screams "Loser", and as such killing bosses on heroic difficulty in a game becomes something spectacular, even though it won't matter at all even come the next patch or nerf.

  13. #33
    they all up in your raids clearing your content bro, nerd tears are especially delicious this time of year.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Veyne View Post
    I'm a casual player and still manage to out DPS most people who aren't already rocking out normal and heroic Tier 13 stuff. On both my Enhancement Shaman and my Shadow Priest, both of which crowning achievement for Cataclysm thus far has been to get their Tier 12 two-piece bonus. So yeah, casual doesn't mean bad.

    There are, however, a ton of bad people in LFR. I kick AFKers. But I'll also kick someone pulling 50k DPS if they're being a whiny little bitch about everything.

    As long as we kill stuff and don't wipe to stupid crap, I don't care how much DPS anyone other than myself does. I go in there and worry about myself.
    The game needs more people like you :3. It's a lot of fun in the LFR when some self-proclaimed leader of the World of Warcraft playerbase comes into the group and starts whining, crying, screaming, kicking and insulting and then we all agree to a kick, and someone goes "Bye bye ". More than once someone has reported how they're getting angry whispers from a level 1 ^^.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcatraz_ View Post
    Oh btw there not, I'm playing right now as I type this :P
    Haha, that goes against one of his statements then.

    Now make them make a demo so I can try it out myself for more than 2 hours >.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno View Post
    this guy up there has not been laid in 6 years, i think we should invest in a simple fix for him rather then a tube of vasaline and moms playgirl magazines......i mean dads playboy's.
    dude, it's 2011, who the hell uses porn mags?

    so this was your only point of posting? /clap

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    LFR can be exceptionally smooth with people doing exactly the right thing or it can be a total disaster with people doing nothing right. The most common mistake I see is when people try to pad meters by DPSing everything on Spine so that we end up with a ton of amalgamations and people won't help rolling. Another is when some "know-it-all" decides to change order on slimes at Yor or platforms at Madness.

    I only do LFR to gear alts and to get set bonus on my main and I consider myself a pretty good player even though I'm only 5/8 normal. The reason we are not x/8 hc is that we are a guild consisting of rl friends where some raided hardcore in previous expacs and some never raided at all which makes the skill level vary a lot. I don't mind that as I find it pretty relaxing being able to raid with people I like going out for a beer with and that are of the same age as myself (age varies between 30+ to 50+).

    It is exceptionally funny to see how some people here call other people bads. I will never be a part of the race for world first but safe to say, neither will those calling other bads as they tend to be x/8 hc (and bragging about it ofc). They and won't kill the end boss until after a couple of more nerfs or extensive gear farming

    Flame on ^^

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    They can't have much to brag about IRL if they do that, I have to say. And I'm normally not one to speculate about such things, but the way this person acts just screams "Loser", and as such killing bosses on heroic difficulty in a game becomes something spectacular, even though it won't matter at all even come the next patch or nerf.
    That's true, but he's not even spectacular. 5/8 heroic, that's it? There's videos for every boss fight now, anything less than 8/8 HM is just a "casual" player. OP is just crying cause they can't beat the lootship of Cataclysm.
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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Rixis View Post
    dude, it's 2011, who the hell uses porn mags?

    so this was your only point of posting? /clap
    And your only point of posting, was to ask a stupid question?

    Obviously there's still tons of porn mags, I basically get 10 of them shoved up my face whenever I lean over to get my Herman Hedning.

    Herp.

  19. #39
    Wait a minute..

    Am I in an alternate dimension?

    I could've sworn that OP had created his last thread (of many spread throughout two months) to slander the quality of WoW in and judge how other games like SWToR are better series, like.. maybe two weeks ago?

    Odd.. if he had stated to leave WoW so many times -- due to its quality-- before..

    OP.. are you a big fat liar? No wait!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    I mean seriously, doesnt the "casual" community get irritated at seeing this?
    Not as irritated as when I see a "Hardcore" player griping about loot and DPS in the casual mode of a video game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Anyone else have LFR woes?
    Nope, literally my only problems right now are people being counter productive on forums
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