Scholomance - Dungeon Preview

[Imadraenei]

The old lower level version will remain accessible

I attended public school in Alabama in a system that suffered large amounts of ineptitude and money loss multiple times before I even hit high school, directed by a state legislature who has spent over a decade bickering about the legality of "electronic bingo" machines that look an awful lot like the very illegal slot machines. My reading comprehension blows all these people out of the damned water. Honestly, states #1-48 in education must be in a tie.

[Bane Falcon]

but why are they charging us to play it? if they don't charge us to play it then i won't mind.... but i've already purchased those dungeons. buying a new "expansion" with old content isn't something i want to do.

So, you didn't buy Wrath of the Lich King, which re-used Naxxramas. You didn't buy Cataclysm, which re-used SFK and DM. You didn't buy Burning Crusade, which re-used the dungeon sets from Vanilla and re-colored them as loot.

Glad we got that cleared up, too. VANILLA OR DIE!! ORIGINAL CONTENT ONLY!!!

---------- Post added 2011-12-30 at 02:17 AM ----------

Yeah, I posted in two topics because it is equally applicable in both threads. I would hope such a simple concept is easy to grasp but after spending time on these forums, nothing about people and their intelligence or lack thereof surprises me.

Quite the interesting roundabout way of questioning my intelligence... However, if you're talking about simple concepts and the intelligence or lack thereof of the forum dwellers, I once again point out the example of someone re-using a forum post that bitches about re-using content.

If you truly felt that strongly enough over the re-use of material, you wouldn't be doing it yourself.

[Mwar]

The old lower level version will remain accessible for lower level characters.

Guys. You don't need to flip out about the new dungeon. Seriously. -_-

Exactly.

I really like this way a lot more, wish the old SFK was still around. I guess it wouldn't have made a lot of sense, but y'know...

[Sickoz]

Okay, I hate to be a Negative Nancy but I really am SICK of this.
I play this game for a fun experience and for me that comes out from new and varied visuals, sounds and ambiance. I was alright with SFK and VC; especially VC because of the story. But that said, the layouts of those dungeons were painfully Vanilla, tired and underwhelming - and I don't blame the instances for that.

Then when they brought ZG/ZA back - that just raped the sanctity of the originals. But I shouldn't be selfish; it was probably good for people who had never seen the instances in their glory days. Still, as someone who never ran ZG back in Vanilla, I still got a feel of how fun it might have been when I solo'd it time and time again on my druid.

And now this? Bloody hell, why?

And before some smartass responds with, "The fights are different!!" Please.
I am an accomplished PvEer and a long time WoW player. At this point, PvE to me is same - all it is a mixture of elements - running your rotation optimally, moving here, moving there, DPSing, not DPSing, taunting, moving out of fire, interrupting, etc.

TLDR: I play for environments, the feel of a second, fantasy world NOT some PvE fights in a vacuum. The fights don't make the experience; the encounters do.

Can you go post this in the other new dungeon threads, i havent read it enough yet

[roahn the warlock]

I like how the most people came into the Scholo and SM threads simply to whine about them and the other high level dungeons have no or barely no comments at all.
I do wonder some times why some folks still play this game, or stick around to just be negative all the time. It's as if no-one watched Blizzcon.

I have a proble with it because there are as many old school dungeons s panda dungeons, that is unacceptable, there had better be 3 more panda dungeons before launch or im don,e because. I'm not waiting around for a 4.1 repeat and shit 8 boss dungeons. I can only forgive their minimalist mindset and bullshit excuses so much. 4.0 had great raids and great dungeons, albiet a bit too hard for some. 4.1 was shit, 4.2 was awesome but needed more bosses like they promised, 4.3 is aweful, there is no curve in difficulty, because you can;t curve 8 bosses, FL was curved too high, and DS's curve is too shallow. "What number feels right" is crap It isn't making bosses for the sake of bosses when 6/8 of the bosses in DS I have never heard of. get creative, it's what you are payed to do.

[eucatastrophe]

Quite the interesting roundabout way of questioning my intelligence... However, if you're talking about simple concepts and the intelligence or lack thereof of the forum dwellers, I once again point out the example of someone re-using a forum post that bitches about re-using content.

If you truly felt that strongly enough over the re-use of material, you wouldn't be doing it yourself.

Oh, there is no question in my mind about your intelligence.

---------- Post added 2011-12-30 at 12:22 AM ----------

Can you go post this in the other new dungeon threads, i havent read it enough yet

Yeah, I am saving it to my desktop so when Blizzard makes level 90 Icecrown Citadel, I'll have it ready to post again.
Also, now you feel what I feel regarding these dungeons.

[roahn the warlock]

So, you didn't buy Wrath of the Lich King, which re-used Naxxramas. You didn't buy Cataclysm, which re-used SFK and DM. You didn't buy Burning Crusade, which re-used the dungeon sets from Vanilla and re-colored them as loot.

Glad we got that cleared up, too. VANILLA OR DIE!! ORIGINAL CONTENT ONLY!!![COLOR="red"]

I see 6 dungeons, half of them are reused, that is unacceptable, and is only a precursor for more of the same. I understand that things like pokewow and senarios take up time, but you know.... if you want to remain a competitive mmo hire more people, I'm damn well sure these new mmo's have a higher number of people working on them

[StixRam]

Are they sticking a gun to your head and asking you to pay?

yes because i have to pay in order to get to level 90

[Count Zero]

Personally, I think some of the Strat/Scholo weapons are awesome looking. So, having higher versions of them wouldn't be a bad thing. Especially if they keep some of the proc-based ones and scale them up. Like Frightskull Shaft, for example.

omfg I need to go farm that for transmog ... wow, thanks. I don't see that scaling up as-is, but it would be cool to get a level 90 version of it, also.

[Bane Falcon]

I see 6 dungeons, half of them are reused, that is unacceptable, and is only a precursor for more of the same. I understand that things like pokewow and senarios take up time, but you know.... if you want to remain a competitive mmo hire more people, I'm damn well sure these new mmo's have a higher number of people working on them

You're failing to notice something right in front of you... It's acceptable because it's been happening for several expansions. It's not a precursor for more of the same, because that precursor started back in BC, continued in Wrath, continued in Cata, and now people are still saying they want to see their old content re-vamped.

LEt me re-iterate: PEOPLE ASKED TO SEE THESE DUNGEONS RE-MADE AS HEROICS, AND BLIZZARD LISTENED!

[Sickoz]

I see 6 dungeons TWO (2) of them being reused (not 3 which is half pal)

I see 6 dungeons, half of them are reused, that is unacceptable, and is only a precursor for more of the same. I understand that things like pokewow and senarios take up time, but you know.... if you want to remain a competitive mmo hire more people, I'm damn well sure these new mmo's have a higher number of people working on them

Call me fanboi or whatever, but yes i liked the new DM and even more so the new SFK because in the previous 5-6 years of playing i think i did half a run of it, once

I cant say the same about SM/Scholo as SFK as i ran those instances thousands upon thousands of times, never growing weary, i enjoyed them immensely each time, and personally cant wait to see the changes they make to them like they did DM

[Bane Falcon]

I see 6 dungeons TWO (2) of them being reused (not 3 which is half pal)




Call me fanboi or whatever, but yes i liked the new DM and even more so the new SFK because in the previous 5-6 years of playing i think i did half a run of it, once

I cant say the same about SM/Scholo as SFK as i ran those instances thousands upon thousands of times, never growing weary, i enjoyed them immensely each time, and personally cant wait to see the changes they make to them like they did DM

Technically, SM is going ot be remade as 2 parts. So there's SM 1, SM 2, Scholo, Brewery, Temple, Monastery.

[godtier17]

I see 6 dungeons, half of them are reused, that is unacceptable, and is only a precursor for more of the same. I understand that things like pokewow and senarios take up time, but you know.... if you want to remain a competitive mmo hire more people, I'm damn well sure these new mmo's have a higher number of people working on them

So in what country does 2/6=50%, sorry I don't understand. But I for one am really excited for MoP and SM/Scholo remakes, Deadmines and SFK were a lot of fun for me

[roahn the warlock]

You're failing to notice something right in front of you... It's acceptable because it's been happening for several expansions. It's not a precursor for more of the same, because that precursor started back in BC, continued in Wrath, continued in Cata, and now people are still saying they want to see their old content re-vamped.

LEt me re-iterate: PEOPLE ASKED TO SEE THESE DUNGEONS RE-MADE AS HEROICS, AND BLIZZARD LISTENED!

I have no problem with the old school dungeons, none at all. my problem is with the fact that there is the same number of old school dungeons as new dungeons, If they release 3-4 new dungeons before launch I will be happy. Old schools are fine for funsies, but having them a filler for actual content is and always will be unacceptable.

[Sickoz]

Oh ok, I was counting SM as 1, and the Raid as a Dungeon, either way, im not upset

[roahn the warlock]

So in what country does 2/6=50%, sorry I don't understand. But I for one am really excited for MoP and SM/Scholo remakes, Deadmines and SFK were a lot of fun for me

To you and the poster above you without a brain. There are 6 shown, one of them is a raid. 3 of them are panda and 2 are old school. But Holy Thralls balls batman! Scarlet monestray is actually 2 Dungeons!. go back and look numbskull so 3 panda dungeons and 3 old school dungeons that makes 6 and three are oldschool 3/6. now... hold on a second I remember from 4th grade that 3/6=1/2 no way! one half. Oh you noticed, okay this is directed at the poster higher up, who called me pal.

Mod Note: Infracted. Please don't insult other users.

[Melianna]

To you and the poster above you without a brain. There are 6 shown, one of them is a raid. 3 of them are panda and 2 are old school. But Holy Thralls balls batman! Scarlet monestray is actually 2 Dungeons!. go back and look numbskull so 3 panda dungeons and 3 old school dungeons that makes 6 and three are oldschool 3/6. now... hold on a second I remember from 4th grade that 3/6=1/2 no way! one half. Oh you noticed, okay this is directed at the poster higher up, who called me pal.

Mod Note: Infracted. Please don't insult other users.

6 level up dungeons. 3 redone dungeons for heroics. Blizzcon Dungeons and Raids panel.

[Sickoz]

To you and the poster above you without a brain. There are 6 shown, one of them is a raid. 3 of them are panda and 2 are old school. But Holy Thralls balls batman! Scarlet monestray is actually 2 Dungeons!. go back and look numbskull so 3 panda dungeons and 3 old school dungeons that makes 6 and three are oldschool 3/6. now... hold on a second I remember from 4th grade that 3/6=1/2 no way! one half.

Yeah, read the post above, where i was calculating differently then you

And really, SM is SM, Its 1 instance, i dont care what you say, it only became 4 different dungeons when LFD tool was implemented,

[Aesyr]

Seeing so many people whine about how their favorite classic instance gets 'butchered'. First off, it doesn't get butchered - the 'original' will still be there as well.
Secondly, if you like the dungeon so much, shouldn't you be happy that you will be able to play a polished version of it that will even give cool loots? :|

Always the bitching, put a sock in it already.

[Azivalla]

Sooo, tell me again, why is everyone getting up in a huff about an optional instance? That won't affect the original? Is your nostalgia so uptight that you can't handle change? Well, you can just ignore it and skip it if you hate it so much...

Oh, who are we kidding? Everyone single one of you is going to do this dungeon.