4.3.2: the death of the PvP tank?

[Enamy]

"Classes: General
Vengeance is no longer triggered by receiving damage from other players."

will this mean the death of prot wars/palas, blood dks and bear droods in PvP? discuss

[Bakis]

Why would it.

[Deleted]

I dont see how changing a pally move kills other classes o:

[Deleted]

Hopefully. Tanks are not supposed to deal damage. Blood DK's have been absolutely ridiculous since cataclysm.

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I dont see how changing a pally move kills other classes o:

Vengeance is not a paladin move oO
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=93098/vengeance
every tank-spec has that

[themightysven]

The virtue of the PvP tank spec isn't that it does a metric tonne of damage, it's that the opponent can burn all their cooldowns and not finish them off. Think of the scene in V for Vendetta when all the soldiers empty their clips at V and he simply says, "my turn"

[Trel]

The virtue of the PvP tank spec isn't that it does a metric tonne of damage, it's that the opponent can burn all their cooldowns and not finish them off. Think of the scene in V for Vendetta when all the soldiers empty their clips at V and he simply says, "my turn"

I think this is the best reasoning I've ever seen to this.

[Atomisk]

Why would it.

Because tanks will be losing thousands of Attack Power. It will be noticeable.

[Anjerith]

It will be difficult for the Tanks that now are forced to tank and not beat the crap out of enemies.

[Bakis]

Because tanks will be losing thousands of Attack Power. It will be noticeable.

So what? They should do "tank damage", not "dps damage".

[Drakoes]

It's about time those blood dks stop tanking like 5 people. It's a joke - I watch the recorded fraps footage for the laughs.

[Pfeff]

Already 50 threads on this.............

Good riddance, Blood was bullshit

[Atomisk]

So what? They should do "tank damage", not "dps damage".

Exactly..? So it affects the life of the pvp tank. Not being able to compare their damage to Dps specs.

[Crieve]

Tanks have always been great in PVP, even prior to Vengeance... This will only make the FOTMs go back to frost mage is all.

[Samyaaza]

So all of the healers dmg abilities will be removed too and all dps' damage reducing abilities will be removed? Yeah nice balance... You know this hurts warriors the most.

[Caiada]

They'll mostly be flag carriers again.

[Facey]

It's about time those blood dks stop tanking like 5 people. It's a joke - I watch the recorded fraps footage for the laughs.

This won't change. they will still be able to bash the crap out of melees because the way there bloodshield is called for has no connection to vengeance. The only change here is that it will take a little longer to wack them.. Still, they will still be standing and laugh at your corpse :P

[Pfeff]

So all of the healers dmg abilities will be removed too and all dps' damage reducing abilities will be removed? Yeah nice balance... You know this hurts warriors the most.

So it was balanced before when I could roll blood, hit two buttons, and keep up in damage with dps while being damn near unkillable? Get out of here

[Belloc]

So what? They should do "tank damage", not "dps damage".

They are currently doing "tank damage." Vengeance is a fundamental part of "tank damage." Without it, they are no longer doing "tank damage."

Seriously, use some common sense.

[Resentful]

They are currently doing "tank damage." Vengeance is a fundamental part of "tank damage." Without it, they are no longer doing "tank damage."

Seriously, use some common sense.

Sorry Vengeance shouldn't have applied in PVP, As a rogue I don't have to worry about it since I got shiv and all but to other classes? No just no.

[ophion1990]

So all of the healers dmg abilities will be removed too and all dps' damage reducing abilities will be removed? Yeah nice balance... You know this hurts warriors the most.

Blood DK was with stacked vengeance hit harder then a rogues ambush, if I start outhealing resto shamans or holy palas or... you can take away my self healing abilities.