Optimizing for Heroic Spine of Deathwing (10)

[eschatological]

Of course it's worth it. It shows up as a loss on FD because you're losing all the agility for 1m10s and essentially have no benefit from a trinket. The thing with H-Spine is, nobody cares about the 1m10s on the amalgamation. Yes, it gets a little hectic on the 3rd plate when you want to burn that amalg ASAP before the blood tank gets insta-gibbed, but amalgamation DPS shouldn't be too difficult to make up in the end. Pre-nerf (IE, Tuesday), the important part of the fight was tendon damage, IE the 20 seconds you have KS up for, every minute and a half. Doing the tendon in 2 phases is essential to success, and having that burst of agility on a 1m30s CD was super important to it.

Now, I haven't been in H-DS yet this week, so I don't know yet if the tendon requirement is going to be that bad any more, with what amounts to an almost 20% health reduction on the tendons. My guild is full of people who work 60 hours a week (hence why I'm checking this thread at 5 am, I'm getting ready for work), so we raid F/Sa/Sun, so I'll let you know then. But H-Spine still has a coordination challenge which I think is more pronounced in 10 man than 25 man, and which you'll need to work out as well.

(Oh, and crit > mastery > haste should be fine for H-Spine. Like others have said previously in this thread, you want to proc a LnL via ExpT on the dying amalg prior to the tendon popping. If you can get another trap off on wherever the tank is soaking bloods during the tendon burn, you'll be looking at 2 LnLs at least. You shouldn't really have many GCDs left for cobra shot, diminishing the value of haste on tendon DPS.)

[Ziggypac]

Correct me if I am wrong here...and I really dont know if this was said previously or not. I have been reforging my hit to roughly 6% for this fight..as theyre not actual "bosses". Just throwing that tip in there if anyone didnt know.

To say that no one cares about Amalgamation damage...is wrong. IF amalg damage is low..it throws off the timing, and youre scrwed with lift phases.

[timoseewho]

Interesting note about the 6% thing, is that the same with madness? Or is the final 20% a 'boss'? I never really noticed hehe. And yea, the damage on amalgamations is definitely overlooked by a lot of people, it's REALLY important especially towards the end lifts.

[Ziggypac]

Elementium Terrors, Elementium Fragments, Regenerative Bloods, Blistering Tentacles, Congealing Bloods, Corrupting Parasites...are all 87 Elemental (Elites)


Mutated Corruption - ?? (Boss)
Deathwing's Wonderful Head - ?? (Boss)

I will be at 8% hit for that fight..for sure.

[timoseewho]

The adds are level 88, doing it now, missed a few at 6%.

[Ziggypac]

The Amalgamation is 88, but not considered a boss. I never had any issues with it. Weird. Even at 6%, I didnt notice any misses.

I actually checked some logs..on the few times I was in for attempts...and I didnt miss at 6%. Sorry if your having issues.


I would bring it up on ElitestJerks..honestly.

[eschatological]

We finally got this boss down on our 2nd of 3 raid nights this week. That last half of the last plate is..hectic.

[Oldy]

Which spec is best for tendons now. Im asigned for removing stuns duty and its rly pain in the ass to switch on corruptions with all cds/buffs up as mm (plus my fellow m8ts slack with switching so i waste 5-6sec of rapid fire buff on it). With new proc rate of LnL is it beter considering switching on stun removeal to go Surv ?

[eschatological]

Errr, you really should be pushing lifts between grips. Having a grip mid-tendon sucks completely.

SV can do steady, if unremarkable damage on the tendons, but has much higher amalgamation/bloods DPS - it's especially good for trimming bloods down on plate 2 and beyond.

MM is going to be the best burst you can get on the tendons - but is obviously diminished by switching to grips mid-lift. MM also has the advantage, imo, of a free HM and a much easier time of managing t13 4pc by only aimed shot dumping between lifts.