Last edited by Melanieshaman; 2012-01-17 at 11:21 PM.
To be honest I really do not see how this any different than the US.
If "sterilization" in the article is talking about chemical castration then just being on hormones will do that for you anyway.
If "sterilization" means removal of your testes/ovaries depending which way you are transitioning well that is a bit different. But either way reproduction will never be possible if that is what the aim of this is going for. (I have briefly scanned through the few pages here)
But in the US you are unable to change your birth certificate from M to F unless you send in documentation that you had sexual reassignment surgery. Even getting your driver's license changed from M to an F is almost impossible without documentation as well due to all the security measures that have gone into place. From research I have done it was MUCH easier to change years ago. So essentially how is it any different from what they are doing in Sweden? People in the US who chose not to have surgery will always carry around that big M on all their important documents until surgery.
The article just makes it out to sound like something overly horrible when in fact it is pretty much the same rules as we have here in the US. You must be lucky and live in a state where it is possible. Where I live I need documentation for the DMV from a SRS surgeon saying that I had surgery and that I am complete.
Which is kind of irritating because my name change is legalized so everything I have and own is in my new name. But yet that stupid pesky M on my drivers license and BC make it very awkward when trying to find a job. >_>
I'm confused... is transgender when you get the operation to become the other sex? If so... why is it bad if you get sterilized? You won't have what you initially had before.
Most likely the wisest Enhancement Shaman.
I think people are getting all worked up because of the word "forced".
You should be more worried about the old communists who are now in the environmental movement.
OT: Old laws like these scare the crap out of me. There are alot of very bizarre old laws that are still on the books, just not enforced. I bet there are still places where oral or anal sex is illegal.
Am I the only one who noticed the "before the state recognises their gender" Umm who gives a shit if the state thinks you're a man or a women? At the end of the day it should be about if the person is happy with who or what they are not about whether the states recognises it or not, although forced sterilisation is pretty extreme to be fair.
I elaborated on that a bit on page.. 5, I think.Am I the only one who noticed the "before the state recognises their gender" Umm who gives a shit if the state thinks you're a man or a women?
Basically, every time you need to get something done in your life.. Taxes, alcohol-tests, getting into a club, getting a credit-card, going to the bank, buying a train ticket... Every time you need to identify yourself, you will run into some sort of duplicity, where your appearance tells people one thing, while your papers tell them a completely different thing. You'll get funny looks, embarrassment, the whole blushing and stammering thing, people being uneasy...
And here's a funny thing of which I've heard several reliable accounts, and even seen one on a reality show: Customs. Customs have to be the worst. There was this woman who wanted to go somewhere by airline. She wasn't even going abroad. However, she was pulled over in customs because her ID clearly said 'male.' She spent the night in a holding cell, got thrown in a single cell with male prisoners (they wouldn't put her with the female prisoners because of her ID) and was physically examined... Forcefully; just on the edge of rape. Quite an atrocious event, where the 'investigators' were trying to prove she was a man, or flying under a fake ID.
There's quite a good reason to want to have your paper edited, even far before you're ready for your SRS.
Should some bureaurat in some dusty office go through pictures and decide who is now female all depending on pictures? Or should we just make people the other gender when they feel like it...
---------- Post added 2012-01-18 at 11:08 PM ----------
Here ya go... http://transhealth.vch.ca/resources/...rmones-MTF.pdf
Main quote i got "Although anti-androgens and estrogen affect sperm production and can
make you permanently sterile, there may still be a chance that you could
make someone pregnant even after starting hormone therapy. Depending
on how you have sex, you may need to consider birth control options."
"When starting hormone therapy" so my guess is it will eventually make you sterile.
Last edited by Melanieshaman; 2012-01-19 at 12:00 AM.
That fabric softener teddy bear...oooh I'm 'a hunt that little bitch down.