About Ferals.

[Feranor]

wait, what?

1. Wait for Druid to use his PS proc.
2. Druid is now stuck in Humanoid Form for a GCD.
3. Hex Druid.
4. Win.

alternatively:

1. Purge PS proc.
2. Win.

[Shizniticus]

Stop feeding the bear rage.

Please explain? Im a sponge. Much appreciated.

---------- Post added 2012-01-18 at 04:48 PM ----------

1. Wait for Druid to use his PS proc.

PS proc?

yes, im still learning.

[hikamiro]

Please explain? Im a sponge. Much appreciated.

---------- Post added 2012-01-18 at 04:48 PM ----------


PS proc?

yes, im still learning.

Bear uses Enraged Regen, you stop hitting bear, and attempt to slow him so he can't hit you, and then he'll only gain minimal health. If you continue wacking at the bear, and he keeps hitting you he'll gain a ton of health.

PS is Pred Swiftness, the instant cast buff they gain after using a finisher (100% at 5 CP, 80% at 4 CP, ect..) As he said, it is dispelable

[iWolfBanei]

Slows are nothing special anymore.
Every melee has several options of closing gaps
Bleeds, unlike magical DoTs, require ramp-up
Are you intentionally omitting the requirements for a Feral's instant CC? I think you are.
Countered by a long downtime
Feral self healing sucks.
This is the first time I've seen someone QQ about the armor reduction of Faerie Fire. You seem desperate.
Stop feeding the bear rage
Stealth? So now we're complaining about the very basic abilities of a class?
Barkskin? Seriously?
Nonsense. They lose all Vengeance, all Rage, Frenzied Regen, their pressure drops almost immediately since they're so dependent on PS procs; and as you mentioned, but cowardly tried to downplay, tons of wasted GCDs.
Ferals can be disarmed.
Ferals are not immune to any CC. In addition, they can be hibernated and feared by Scare Beast
Dodge? Hit them from behind. It's not like they have a 75% Snare like Rogues. They also can't parry.

Ferals are very strong against players who don't understand how they work (except Mages of course, doesn't really matter in that case). I destroy other Ferals because I do.

This guy nailed it. Stop playing at 1.3k and you might get somewhere.

vs the 'undispellable' cyclone tears. Don't get cyclone nerfed because it isn't like every other CC.

There's a thing in this game called 'Predators Swiftness', outside of TF it needs 10s+ for Ferals to get 100% chance of proccing it on our 5CP finisher. After all this ramp up time any Shaman, Priest or Mage can dispel it. DK's can Dark Sim it. Warriors can spell reflect it. Every other class can out-range it.

It isn't really that hard to see. I never have a problem with Ferals when I play any of my other classes. It's really just a l2p issue, honestly. All these bads crying with eventually get feral homogenised into a Warrior class.

[Olianda]

I suggest you to roll a moonkin druid and try owning a good feral. And post a vid about it.



I have played moonkin since vanilla and i got owned by ferals all the time in arena. Am i a bad player cause my Starsurge hits for like 1/10 of a feral druid skill?

Moonkin get slaughtered by almost anything, especially if there's a dispeller involved.

OT: I've got no problems with Ferals, I'm running an Hpally/Spriest (I know, bad setup) atm. Mindsear on me, and HoP ready, and the Feral is no problem. Negate the opener, and (at least for me) they seem to be no problem. Bear form is only good if the thing has rage, kite it, and no problem.

[Jazzmongoose]

I suggest you to roll a moonkin druid and try owning a good feral. And post a vid about it.



I have played moonkin since vanilla and i got owned by ferals all the time in arena. Am i a bad player cause my Starsurge hits for like 1/10 of a feral druid skill?

This made me lol.
I got a nice 48k instant from a moonkin earlier on my 4.5k res feral..

[Woop Woop]

1. Wait for Druid to use his PS proc.
2. Druid is now stuck in Humanoid Form for a GCD.
3. Hex Druid.
4. Win.

alternatively:

1. Purge PS proc.
2. Win.

Clearly you didn't get my point, of course you can wait for a feral to use cyclone and then hope for a quick hex.
Also unless ur auto-hitting, there is a chance you also have a GCD.
What he said is while being in cat form enhance shamans could do an instant hex on him, which is wrong.

[Archijs]

Went hunter-rogue yesterday in 2s for cap @ 1.8k MMR, we beat mostly every team, except the ones with ferals. We lost a couple of games to other teams, but thats because we mostly messed up, nor had any communication. If we had that, we woulda had em.

Yet everything thats feral-radnom was a loss 90% of times. And no, we are not retarded, just they jump the hunter, he can kite with CDs (was really pro at it), yet after 30secs hes helpless. If he gets close, kitty bleeds them to death. If hes at a distance, kitty just kites him around the pillar and heals when possible. But its ok, todays fotm are kitties, gonna be something else in the next patch.

All I can say - cant beat em, join them. Next week going rogue-feral i guess.

[Kekkeri]

Went hunter-rogue yesterday in 2s for cap @ 1.8k MMR, we beat mostly every team, except the ones with ferals. We lost a couple of games to other teams, but thats because we mostly messed up, nor had any communication. If we had that, we woulda had em.

Yet everything thats feral-radnom was a loss 90% of times. And no, we are not retarded, just they jump the hunter, he can kite with CDs (was really pro at it), yet after 30secs hes helpless. If he gets close, kitty bleeds them to death. If hes at a distance, kitty just kites him around the pillar and heals when possible. But its ok, todays fotm are kitties, gonna be something else in the next patch.

All I can say - cant beat em, join them. Next week going rogue-feral i guess.

maybe you'd be better at arena if you didn't reroll a fotm comp every week

glhf

[Gorelaz]

Ofc listing all the abilities of a spec/class in that shape looks OP and unbalanced without comparing, now try listing what mages can do and their abilities in the same shape, or any other spec/class.

Ferals are good but not THAT for this kind of a post. is u play a class that makes ferals smash u in the face, try another class, so its not about ferals, its about whos VS the feral.

[Wolfdragon]

BTW towards the question which class has a bigger toolset, I don't know... umm Rogues? more peel more burst more cc and smokebomb, not enough?
Wait wait I have another one! Mages! if not dispelled you are guaranteed to sit 16.5 sec nova's if all ramped up, + deepfreeze, + impact stuns + slows.
Wait Warlocks anybody? chain fear is the best cc in the game, and it's undispellable given UA Death Coil is insane aswell, then I can keep on going even further but there is no point, there's classes obviously better than ferals, anybody really complaining about ferals is bad at the game

[biggischkris]

srsly do you guys actually believe ferals are that good?
i have on and i love to play it but damn they are by far the strongest class to bring in 3s
they have 1 good comp, jungle

yes on a 1v1 and 2V2 base they can seem (well not seem, they are) OP against many classes
but its just too easy to lock them out since cataclysm

only way a feral can be good is with dispel spam on him
take the number of locks dominating the 3s ladder and its game over

and for you trolls out there,
yes i mentioned mage and rogue wich are obviously the strongest 1v1 and fotm OP
BUT that was just an extreme example
its piss easy to control and pwn feral on mage/rog
and just fairly balanced vs most other classes

some other hero said there is nothing he can do as a moonkin
like wtf are you talking about then 1V1? 2V2 ? what? what comp vs what comp?
boomkin is certainly NOT weaker thn feral in 3s
you dont have to believe me, just check the ladder
same amount of Lock/Boom combos thn Jungle combos 2.4+

[Mimilijin]

All of you Ferals roll and enh shaman and you ll see what means to be fcked up on melee pvp.
So stop whining, ferals are top pvp right now along with rogues and mages.

[Kekkeri]

All of you Ferals roll and enh shaman and you ll see what means to be fcked up on melee pvp.
So stop whining, ferals are top pvp right now along with rogues and mages.

FMP at blizzcon went 0 wins 1 draw 8 losses.

edit : not that i don't see your point, i wish they'd buff enhancement

[Itisamuh]

Just because someone's a good player doesn't automatically mean you have to act like a prick and say things aren't overpowered or really good, and are easy to beat, just because YOU can beat them. As an example, rogues have always been considered a hard counter to warlock, throughout almost the entire duration of the game. I play both classes, and I've always been able to beat the other class regardless of which I play. But instead of acting elitist about it, I've always tried to give tips and help the warlock side of it, because despite my own results, I can see why warlocks have a much harder time generally with that fight. And I'll do that with anything. Why other good players feel the need to be rude and condescending is beyond me.

I've always been a good player and can play pretty much any class and win against basically anything, but I'm still not blind to what's too good and what isn't. Ferals ARE too strong, there's no doubt about it. They're the strongest melee in a general setting with general gear, aside from maybe blood death knights, but at least they're only strong against melee. I can beat them, sure, and I play one, but the amount of effort required to dominate with a feral is much lower than the amount of effort taken to beat one as most other classes. Same with frost mages. That's when a class becomes overpowered; it's not a simple matter of learning to play, because with that comeback, balance is perfect since technically anything can beat anything.

[Shizniticus]

Why other good players feel the need to be rude and condescending is beyond me.

I'll second that... too often you hear the immature rants. It's not constructive and you make yourself look like a child.

WTB - Ignore button for forums

[Runenwächter]

dont like ferals

l2hunter
l2rogue

kill ferals like a baws

[Illana]

dont like ferals

l2hunter
l2rogue

kill ferals like a baws

not sure if srs but you just listed the two classes which feral counter the most.

[naturetauren]

This made me lol.
I got a nice 48k instant from a moonkin earlier on my 4.5k res feral..

Pvp geared moonkin in arena?

All of you Ferals roll and enh shaman and you ll see what means to be fcked up on melee pvp.
So stop whining, ferals are top pvp right now along with rogues and mages.

Oh yeah i leveled a enh shaman to 83. Had enough and went 2h. It actually got better.

Actually i tried WoW abit at my friends house. Feral druid came putted bleeds up and then went bear form dodge dodge dodge. Lol!

[mea]

not sure if srs but you just listed the two classes which feral counter the most.

Both those classes can win ferals, it just isn't easy. Not sure if srs or just can't personally handle them?

Edit: wasn't really meant to be rude, just as a similar response. And to clarify: rogues and hunters can beat ferals, but unlike the feral, these two classes need to perform near flawlessly to do so.

---------- Post added 2012-01-20 at 12:47 PM ----------

Ofc listing all the abilities of a spec/class in that shape looks OP and unbalanced without comparing, now try listing what mages can do and their abilities in the same shape, or any other spec/class.

Ferals are good but not THAT for this kind of a post. is u play a class that makes ferals smash u in the face, try another class, so its not about ferals, its about whos VS the feral.

OH EM GEE COMBAT ROGUES CAN DO FULL DAMAGE ON TWO TARGETS WTF

like that?