dude... there are more Catholics than all the other christian faiths populatons combined. Catholicism is definitely the main christian faith...
Catholicism: 1.2 BILLION
Protestantism: 670 million
Eastern Orthodoxy: 230 million
Oriental orthodoxy: 82 million
Anglicanism: 82 million
Restorationism: 40 million
Mormonism: 9 million
What I want is an athiest president and an athiest government. I find it both ludicrous and embarrassing that superstitions from 2000-year-old myths are considered acceptable discourse in American politics.
It's all going to come down to:
Do you hate (minorities/gays/womens rights/the poor) more than you hate mormons?
There's enough hate in the world to get anyone elected. But we seem to lose no matter what.
Last edited by Tychoblu; 2012-02-08 at 12:14 AM.
14 million mormons....
also, does that mean that all religions were cults when there werent several thousand people in existance...?
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I dont really care what's who's politics as long as they dont force it on everyone else... Everyone has their own policies...
You see how big a difference there is?
I never said that Mormonism is a cult.
I would say that the number relies on the number of people actually on earth at the time. Considering during the early stone age, 400 people would be a real percentage of the human population.
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well, they also had an 1100-1900 year head start on every other one of those as well...
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
It's the most populous of the sects. I don't see how that makes it the "main christian church".
So then all those sects that you listed are just large cults. This communicates what is necessary.
The mormons are just one of the smaller cults, but they have enough money that they realize that they can gain influence and change how people view them. I would think it in everyone's best interest to see this work undone.
"Care about 'er? I love her! I'd kill everyone in the world and myself if she wanted it!"
The Bible says cain and his descendants were marked as well, and there is no such doctrine in the LDS church that states black people become white lol. You are probably referring to their soul made clean, but that is the same thing which happends to all people, chinese, white, indian, black, hispanic, w/e.
You can claim issue with divine authority all you want but that's a completely separate issue that has nothing to do with whether or not Catholicism was the "main/original" church. That's just pure historical fact, mostly because for almost 1500 years the Catholic church was pretty much the only significant Christian church(it stamped out most other "heresy's" quickly and ones that did gain some traction were typically a mere fraction of a percent of the total Christian population). Almost every major christian denomination all the way back to the gnostics and Catharism splintered from the Catholic church and every group can be tied as a splinter from the Catholic church itself like Lutheran or Episcopalian or as a splinter group from a group that had already broken off from the Catholic church. Not to mention the whole idea of apostolic succession and the Papacy is pretty much well able to trace its way back to Peter, and while I'd hope to avoid quoting the bible can be describe as "the rock upon which I found my church,". "I" In this case being Jesus. I'm sure you could make a compelling argument for other alternatives that popped up in the very early and formative days of the Catholic Church but the Catholic church did a pretty damn good job of keeping people in line until Martin Luther came along and as I said pretty every denomination can trace its way back to a founder that broke from a group that broke from a group that broke from the Catholic church.
The Shia fight and sunnie fight is actually a little different in how it came about and is actually not the best comparison to Christianity. Granted I don't know all the specific dogmatic differences between Shia and Sunni but to me the main issue of contention was who would succeed Mohammad. It's a much deeper dogmatic disagreement between Catholics and protestants and other than the mutual and often violent disdain for each other I'd say that's about as far as the comparison can go. I'd say it's much more akin to the Catholic/Eastern Orthodox split. Either way it seems the fundamental issue of disagreement is with what main is. In my interpretation the Catholic church is the largest and as I mentioned pretty much every denomination in existence today can trace its way back to the original Catholic church. The fact that the Catholic Church is pretty much the progenitor of every protestant denomination and the fact that it still maintains at least numerical dominance certainly suggests a prominent role and calling it the main Christian church would hardly be disingenuous. Had it effectively dissolved into the annals of history of course I would not be making that claim. You seem to be making the case that it's whoever has the greater "divine authority" of which you feel cannot exist and thus equivocate all of them which is a historically disingenuous stand point when trying to understand how the differences came about and the real world implications of them.
And before people get antsy at me I'm not the least bit religious. I was however raised in a religious household and love history.
I get exactly what you mean, you're a bigot.
Last edited by shimerra; 2012-02-08 at 12:39 AM.
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"Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others."
Ambrose Bierce
The Bird of Hermes Is My Name, Eating My Wings To Make Me Tame.
I just feel its odd saying that any of these groups would be the main christian church since from what I can tell its a serious of people saying that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
For whatever reason that fact at least the vast majority of these groups can be traced back to catholicism escaped me. I find that a much more compelling argument than simply "they are the biggest".
The matter of divine authority isn't directly related to this, I'm sorry if my ramblings are less than organized. I'm not exactly issuing prepared statements heh.
"Care about 'er? I love her! I'd kill everyone in the world and myself if she wanted it!"
Closing yet another topic about religion. Remember, this topic is not allowed on MMO-Champion.