Americans have more freedom than Iranians, but they don't have as much as they believe/project to, media and propaganda goes a long way. No-one would care if the nation's motto didn't include the words liberty and freedom.
The UK isn't much better, but we don't claim to be on a high horse. Personally I get the impression central/western Europe has the most freedom, Germany particularly (huh huh irony).
Last edited by xenaros; 2012-01-20 at 10:13 AM.
The Allies would've definitely lost World War II if the Horde had taken part
Also weed is illegal in the US by federal law and while medical weed is "allowed" in some states you could be arrested at any moment for possession if they on a whim chose to enforce it...
Simple way to test. If you can rant in public that your country isn't free, or mock the government and not get arrested, then your country IS free, regardless of what you may think otherwise.
Same in the UK, when stupid people come out with crap like "Oh, its a policed state", I want to air drop them into North Korea or whatnot, and say "THAT'S a policed state, have fun!".
Furthermore, if you think you can grow good weed, corn, vegatables or any other crops when you are a dipshit you really don't know what agriculture entails lol.
I think this belief comes more from the observation of what the government has done in the past to get a tighter grip on us. The fear these people express is not of us having no freedom in the present but of having none in the future.
Last edited by Saisen; 2012-01-20 at 10:19 AM.
The fact is that (let's put it in common language here) BECAUSE OF OUR FREEDOMZ in terms of (soft) drug legislation we have developed quality strands of weed that is exported around the world and used for purposes so that people who can actualy benefit from it don't have to pay a retarded price for a crap and often unsafe product.
think it fits here too "it's called the american dream because you have to be asleep to believe it" - george carlin. just watch some of his shows and youd know whats wrong in america and the loss of ur oh so precious freedroms
Last edited by Kieke; 2012-01-20 at 10:27 AM.
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1. "Freedom" and "privacy" are two entirely different things. There are few countries in the world (that have some form of central government) where the population has as much "freedom" and "rights" as Americans do. Privacy is an entirely different thing. 9/11 and the ensuing legislative changes killed off the last bit of it we had left. Currently, the only people in the world that have privacy are primitive tribes that are yet to be discovered. Everyone else can be 100% monitored, by government agencies and private companies that have the resources for it.
2. Elected officials in the USA, generally speaking, do not serve the nation, nor it's people. Due to the tremendous impact funds have on election campains, anyone who is in any position of power was put there by corporations, industries, or individuals with the funds to do so, for one purpose: to protect their interests. If you do not have the backing of corporations/industries/individuals that have the money to bring you to power, you simply will not be able to achief a position of power. This is exactly what is happening in this case: bills are proposed and will possibly pass that do not serve the nation, nor it's people, but only the selected few that invested the money to get this bill passed.