GW2 is a very different game than GW1 with a lot of new players. I've seen quite a lot of people on these forums excited about GW2 while not liking GW1. If they make the beta for GW1 players only (which I don't think they will) then they might hurt a large group of potential customers while only pleasing the GW1 veterans. ANet owes us nothing, you play a game for your own fun right? However, you could also reason that GW1 veterans will take an open beta more serious than new hyped players without a clue about GW. It's a tricky one.
I was in a high-ranked guild (top 10-20) in GW1 during prophecies/part of factions, so I was hoping I'd get beta privilege to offer some insight on balance, but if anything, they'll probably grab the current high-ranked players for beta (if they haven't for alpha already), so whatever; it's fair enough. As for the general population, I agree with the other dude: experienced beta testers (people who are actually willing to test) first, GW1 players second, everyone else last. I don't see it as entitlement, just the company showing loyalty to their customers much like their customers show loyalty to them -- it's just a nice gesture.
Giving any group priority, after the press test, will likely cause community nerd rage to some extent.
Don't see Anet doing this. Would be a very unsavvy marketing move.
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I think they should give out beta invites randomly, but also give invites to people who have 30 or more rewards. My opinion is biased of course. :P
I haven't played GW1 but I do think they should hand out a reasonable amount of beta invitations to long-term or "successful" GW1 players. Reason is, most people, as you guys are well aware of, treat beta tests as free demos. I did it in GW1 and it haunts me in my sleep
However, people who are already certain they will play GW2, especially if they come from the GW1 scene and have shown their "loyality", are imho more likely to submit useful feedback.
See, person A never played GW1 and comes from, say, the WoW world with the intention to just "try GW2 out". Aside from their obvious feedback that there are no raids and no gear progression, they likely won't say anything constructive. If they like it, they might buy the game, if they don't like it, they'll just return to WoW.
Person B, a hardcore GW1 player who is eager to play GW2, on the other hand will try to do anything he can to make this game a success. MMOs are most fun if they're successful and many people join in, so it's also in their interest that the game kicks ass. And that all beside from his obvious loyality to ANet and the GuildWars franchise. Much more and better feedback can be expected from people like Person B.
On a side note, I think that they should still give plenty beta invites away for "other" people, just for marketing and "fresh eyes" purposes.
I don't really care who gets to play the beta, as long as they ...
- actively evaluate content and performance
- give insightful and relevant feedback
- report perceived bugs
People who just want to play for the fun of it have no place in a beta test.
I do believe people from GW1 should get a weekend to themselves. That's just because the true GW1 fans are quite frankly the ones who are most hestitant to playing GW2. Let them see the changes are for the better!
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Why market your product to hardcore fans that you have in the palm of your hand? ArenaNet wants to make the best game possible and they wont get as good feedback from players that will play the game even if it doesnt live up to the hype. They do need players that have never played the first game (me!). They even said this when they brought in private testers that they got people that never played GW1 or even another MMO and just let them play and watched how they interacted with the game.
But i would be satisfied if they let anyone who signed up for the newsletter have a chance at an invite.
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With 2000 hours played and owner of other gw products I would love to have early access to beta.
But I think everyone should be treated as equal.
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GW2 is barely a sequel. It shares the same universe, but the game is completely different from GW1. What benefit can ANet get from players who are just fans of their universe?
I understand their stance on the open beta; I'm exactly the person they don't want in their open beta. I played GW1 beta for a couple of days (from a DaoC perspective) and hated it. I never gave any feedback and never bought the game. What benefit did ANet get from me?
For ANet to get any benefit as a beta testing tool, they need to have a selective beta. Back to the old days, where you (*GASP*) filled out a questionaire, with prior beta testing experience and had to write paragraph responses to targeted questions. It's a job, not a demo.
If they want a marketing tool, fine. Give it to the rabid GW1 players, and Facebook followers, and Twitterers, etc. Open it up through contest keys and whatever. I just don't see ANet doing that based on prior comments.
Everyone should be treated equally.
If players have doubts you can read the sticky that covers most if not all info on GW2. If they still have doubts you can opt for beta or just buy the game when it comes out. Even if they dislike some of the things going into this game its still a great game to play.
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If they want to lock the CLOSED beta crowd simply only allowing GW1 players, it is a valid way to do it. After all closed, should be closed right?
This is no different than a person like totalbiscuit ALWAYS getting a beta key before you.
Especially since many of the original Guild Players have been there since the start and spent over $250 on all the games and mini stuff while all you did was eat ad revenue.
It's human nature to force your views and never care about anyone else.
As a businessman, making people having the original guild wars to get in the second during closed beta is absolutely genius. It would force desperate people to get the original game if they don't have it AND then they will buy the second one afterwords. You got 2 games bought over a simple beta.
And you're sitting here thinking arenanet would never do that, but they don't have a say on the marketing... that's Ncosfts job. And their last game was basically buy the game and get into to beta.
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The only reason GW fanboys should get into beta first is because they'll provide lots of positive press. You get the average Joe into beta, he may publicly say something bad about the game.