Xbox 720 to rumored have HD6670

[inux94]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/27/xb...radeon-hd6670/

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/01/2...as-current-gen

What is your thoughts on this?
In my opinion Microsoft is cheaping out on components again, they could atleast go a little higher to accomplish sharper textures & 60 FPS lock instead of 30.

(Maybe we should merge this into a Xbox 720 speculation megathread?)

[Holyshnikies]

I dont understand how it can take 3-4 years to develop a video game console when manufacturing production is so fast. I bet they could build it within a year.

I mean, nvidia is about to release their new line of video cards and AMD just released theirs. Whats so hard about swapping out the old 6670 for a 7970?

[Deleted]

Developing a video game console = Building your own PC, but you engineer the parts to fit a certain sized case, I.E LAPTOP.

They're gonna milk the console world as usual. Sigh.

[Fitzbert]

They want to keep the cost of the console down, remember, so it's affordable by as many people as possible.

The better the graphics card the more expensive it is to produce each unit which means they have to charge more.

I could be way off base, but that's how I'd see it.

[WarFalcon1]

I dont understand how it can take 3-4 years to develop a video game console when manufacturing production is so fast. I bet they could build it within a year.

I mean, nvidia is about to release their new line of video cards and AMD just released theirs. Whats so hard about swapping out the old 6670 for a 7970?

7970 costs $600 and 6770 costs $100? A console with a $600 video card. How much would said console cost retail?

[Deleted]

7970 costs $600 and 6770 costs $100? A console with a $600 video card. How much would said console cost retail?

Relevant.

http://www.vgzero.com/archive/index....ead-10570.html

[Kezotar]

7970 costs $600 and 6770 costs $100? A console with a $600 video card. How much would said console cost retail?

exactly, most consoles in norway costs from 150-350 bucks right now, imagine at release date.. just an average of 500 bucks, with a card for 600 bucks alone let the rest stuff be alot aswell it can cost close to 1500 bucks for a console and who in the right mind will do that?

[Mawler]

They want to keep the cost of the console down, remember, so it's affordable by as many people as possible.

The better the graphics card the more expensive it is to produce each unit which means they have to charge more.

I could be way off base, but that's how I'd see it.

That is what they did with the Wii.

[WarFalcon1]

Relevant.

http://www.vgzero.com/archive/index....ead-10570.html

Not sure if this is for or against the higher end card?

"success of videogame consoles is determined by console innovation and quality, the portfolio of videogame content for the console, online offerings, and the market share of the console

They are already more powerful then Wii U, and I bet PS4 will be in the same ballpark, but thats pure speculation. As for the rest it has nothing to do with the video card. In fact, putting in a better video card will decrease the market share, as it puts it too expensive for many people to own.

[Deleted]

Pc gaming will always be superior because consoles have so crappy parts.

[Kezotar]

Pc gaming will always be superior because consoles have so crappy parts.

well you're not able to run games at maximum with no FPS issues with a rig for 200-400 bucks either

[roahn the warlock]

Developing a video game console = Building your own PC, but you engineer the parts to fit a certain sized case, I.E LAPTOP.

They're gonna milk the console world as usual. Sigh.

which means the continuation of shit pc games, yay.

[Bolson13]

Not sure if this is for or against the higher end card?


They are already more powerful then Wii U, and I bet PS4 will be in the same ballpark, but thats pure speculation. As for the rest it has nothing to do with the video card. In fact, putting in a better video card will decrease the market share, as it puts it too expensive for many people to own.

True, ignoring the Wii for a moment.

Even though the PS3 is a little more powerfull it is hardly used often. The xbox is the lowest of the 2 and that is where developers focus on, making it look good on the cheapest and then copying it over to the better console. I think it might be best to be the worse of the consoles in that generation. I understand that the PS3 is also harder to program on but lets see in the past.

This was also true for the dreamcast/xbox/PS2 where the XBOX was the best technically I believe but not often completely outshined the PS2.

PS1 generation is kind of moot since there wasn't competition outside nintendo really.

Super nintendo generation vs the Sega console. Both very similar in games often. I think the Snes was actually the worse of the 2 but in many games it didn't show.


Ignoring most nintendo consoles because after the SNES they took a turn for the kiddie market and the WII obviously because of the unique way of controlling.


Anyways, just an observation of mine. Having the best technical console of the generation isn't a guarantee for succes it seems.

[roahn the warlock]

True, ignoring the Wii for a moment.

Even though the PS3 is a little more powerfull it is hardly used often. The xbox is the lowest of the 2 and that is where developers focus on, making it look good on the cheapest and then copying it over to the better console. I think it might be best to be the worse of the consoles in that generation. I understand that the PS3 is also harder to program on but lets see in the past.

This was also true for the dreamcast/xbox/PS2 where the XBOX was the best technically I believe but not often completely outshined the PS2.

PS1 generation is kind of moot since there wasn't competition outside nintendo really.

Super nintendo generation vs the Sega console. Both very similar in games often. I think the Snes was actually the worse of the 2 but in many games it didn't show.


Ignoring most nintendo consoles because after the SNES they took a turn for the kiddie market and the WII obviously because of the unique way of controlling.


Anyways, just an observation of mine. Having the best technical console of the generation isn't a guarantee for succes it seems.

Well it was mostly because the develpoers didn't know how to work it, which was the same for ps2.. remember games before GTA3? however ps3 now holds a decient share of the market, simply because it does look so much better, and this time around ps3 doesn't even need to upgrade that much, and developers already know how to work the new system. i see ps4 being a big contender this time around, Xbox is like the Dell of consoles.

[Deleted]

well you're not able to run games at maximum with no FPS issues with a rig for 200-400 bucks either

Pc obviously is worse than consoles if you can't afford moderately good comp pieces to run games well. Point is you can't have good pieces on consoles even if u have enough money.

[inux94]

Pc gaming will always be superior because consoles have so crappy parts.

Everyone knows that, but please stay on topic of the discussion.

[Deleted]

Im waiting for playstation 4. I have had all playstations and love the games on it and PSN is nice. I like the store. Most games are on multiplatform anyway but I wouldnt risk to buy another console instead of playstation even if the other one was 10000 times better. I just love some game series more than the consoles.

[nbm02ss]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/27/xb...radeon-hd6670/

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/01/2...as-current-gen

What is your thoughts on this?
In my opinion Microsoft is cheaping out on components again, they could atleast go a little higher to accomplish sharper textures & 60 FPS lock instead of 30.

(Maybe we should merge this into a Xbox 720 speculation megathread?)

If this is true then sweet, more console gaming at 1280x720! /sarcasm off

[Hulari]

I think they should go a little bit higher. That's probably just a little too old. imo.

[OhpUldum]

To give you guys a bit more information. I have used the HD6670 in a number of PC builds meant for gaming. For all intensive purposes it is a high end HTPC graphics card / entry level gaming card. While it performs moderately well in PC's I could see it performing far better in consoles. My sole reason for believing this is due to the game developers. The game developers are able to eek out as much performance from the HD6670 as possible because that is all they have to design the game for THAT"S IT. That alone makes a huge difference when you can dedicate so much time to coding for one chip, in comparison to PC gaming where they have to code for several generations of GPU's, not just a single GPU.