Heroic Ultraxion 10m. Need soak advices.

[Drugshock]

Hello every1.

We gonna start our tries on Ultraxion-H 10m tonight.

Raid comp is:

Blood DK
Prot Warrior (without safeguard - gonna respec if needed)
Holy Paladin
Resto Druid
Shadow Priest x2
Enhancement Shaman
Combat Rogue
Unholy DK
Fire Mage / Ret Pally

Need some advices about soaking Hour of Twilight.
Would this work?

1st HoT -> Blood DK + Rogue (Cloak)
2nd HoT -> Prot Warr + Spriest 1 (Dispersion)
3rd HoT -> Spriest 2 (Dispersion) + Holy Pally (Bubble)
4th HoT -> Blood DK + Fire Mage (Cauterize) or Ret Pally (Sac from Holy Pally + personal cd)
5th HoT -> Prot Warr + Rogue (Cloak)
6th HoT -> Spriest 1 (Dispersion)+ Fire Mage (Block) or Ret Pally (Bubble)
7th HoT -> Dk Blood + Spriest 2 (Dispersion)

Can use Safeguard (Intervene) from our Prot Warr if its needed.
Thanks in advance.

[Mohammed]

Seems to me you are making it harder than it needs to be. HoT can be soaked every 3rd cast. You might try:

1st HoT -> Blood DK + Rogue (Cloak)
2nd HoT -> Prot Warr + Spriest 1 (Dispersion)
3rd HoT -> Spriest 2 (Dispersion) + Fire Mage (Cauterize)
4th HoT -> Blood DK + Rogue (Cloak)
5th HoT -> Prot Warr + Spriest 1 (Dispersion)
6th HoT -> Spriest 2 (Dispersion) + Fire Mage (Cauterize)
7th HoT -> Blood DK + Rogue (Cloak)

Hope this helps.

[Drugshock]

That will surely help. As I told, our 1st tries so a bit worried.
Thanks

[Deleted]

You can skip the palas and just go bdk+rogue->prot-spriest->mage-spriest->bdk+rogue etc.

You can also use the Dps dk with AMS+IBF if for whatever reason you prefer that.

[jula]

There are many possible solutions. here is a simple one:

Team A: tank1, rogue
Team B: tank2, SP1
Team C: SP2, Mage
Rotate those teams: A->B->C-> A->B->C-> A

Dispersion,Cloak,Cauterize are ready every time.

If have ret comes instead of mage, you can replace him with both paladins, each replace him once:
A->B->C (Ret bubble instead of mage Cauterize)-> A->B->C (Holy bubble instead of mage Cauterize)-> A

These solutions use no external cds (counting on someone else to give you a buff to survive).
Failing means either you fucked up or healers didn't heal enough.

[Sadinar]

Your initial setup will fail; the mage will die due to the debuff when he ice blocks, I believe(I know paladins with the debuff die even if bubbled, assuming mages will too).

If your fire mage is not there that day, you can use your holy paladin/ret paladin with glyphed divine protection. They glyph divine protection, and then they get a hand of sacrifice from the other paladin(or a safeguard intervene) and they can survive if topped off.

Your Unholy DK can also soak via Safeguard/Hand of Sac+Ams+Amz. Ams+Amz alone is not enough, however.

[Oratory]

IMO you're better off not having a tank in the first hour. Whichever pair takes the first needs to take it a 3rd time, and your tanks are better off using their cooldowns to survive the damage towards the end.

I would suggest this order:

1st HoT -> Spriest 1 (Dispersion) + Rogue (Cloak)
2nd HoT -> Prot Warr (Shield Wall + Shield Block) + Blood DK (AMS + IBF)
3rd HoT -> Spriest 2 (Dispersion) + Holy Pally (Bubble)
4th HoT -> Spriest 1 (Dispersion) + Rogue (Cloak)
5th HoT -> Prot Warr (Shield Wall + Shield Block) + Blood DK (AMS + IBF)
6th HoT -> Spriest 2 (Dispersion) + Mage (Ice Block)
7th HoT -> Spriest 1 (Dispersion) + Rogue (Cloak)

You have some strong survivability cooldowns in this group so Safeguard shouldn't be required, but really there's no reason not to use it on this fight.

[Sadinar]

Blood Dk is fine to use on the last hour, since all a blood dk needs to do for the last hour is AMS+Bone Shield; he'll still have his vamp blood up for a raid cooldown(with 4pc) and icebound up in the big burn.

[Andyo]

We go:

Tank + Rogue
Tank + Hunter
Shadow Priest (with glyph) + Mage

Repeat

[Deleted]

Why are you making it so complicated? You have 6 perfect soakers, you can just use the exact same rotation. Exactly like Mohammed said, or anything of that sort. Personally I'd prefer to just leave it as: tanks -> priests -> mage/rogue for even more simplicity.

[Deleted]

We go:

Tank + Rogue
Tank + Hunter
Shadow Priest (with glyph) + Mage

Repeat

Why would you make the SP reglyph for dispersion there? it's not like he can soak another Hour within two minutes anyway?

OT:

Just make up three teams of two and roll with that, as other have mentioned in the thread.

[Drugshock]

Thanks every1 for the advices.
We killed that like 1 hour ago.

Did almost like Mohammed told --> 2 Cycles of DK + Rogue / Warr + Spriest 1 / Spriest 2 + Mage and on 7th both Paladins bubbled