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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    GhostShep could possess a video screen to communicate with them. maybe.
    Now all I see is pixely faces with electronic screams a la Overlord. Thanks. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moontalon View Post
    That's the thing, I don't think it was technically Shepard anymore. It refers to Shepard as someone they were in the past, which to me sounds like they are no longer that person, but rather something different made up of the experiences and thoughts of that person. A sort of reincarnation, if you will. And I do not recall seeing anything in the cinematic to suggest Shepard just "became a Reaper" either, but rather more like became some kind of super consciousness that extended across all Reapers. At any rate, I don't think it could communicate in any way with the people Shepard knew.
    Why couldn't she? Even the small reapers could talk using normal voice, not to mention Sovereign or Harbinger plus Shepard had that monologue in the end which means it's still a person or a personality as she referred to herself as "I". She didn't become some force of nature or a driving will behind the reapers. It should be as easy as flying to Earth in a reaper body, wave with those tentacle thingies they had and start preaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ita View Post
    Why couldn't she? Even the small reapers could talk using normal voice, not to mention Sovereign or Harbinger plus Shepard had that monologue in the end which means it's still a person or a personality as she referred to herself as "I". She didn't become some force of nature or a driving will behind the reapers. It should be as easy as flying to Earth in a reaper body, wave with those tentacle thingies they had and start preaching.
    That assumes either A) she has a Reaper body of her own, which, again, there was nothing that I can recall in the cinematic to suggest that, or B) she can pull a Harbinger.

    And again, I don't think it was actually Shepard talking in the cinematic. The entire monologue, she referred to Shepard and herself as two separate entities. The language she used suggested that Shepard's death gave birth to whatever it was that was speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moontalon View Post
    That assumes either A) she has a Reaper body of her own, which, again, there was nothing that I can recall in the cinematic to suggest that, or B) she can pull a Harbinger.
    The original catalyst couldnt even forcestart the Citadel relay to summon the reaper armada, so one have to wonder, is the catalysts powers limited to giving out commands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    The original catalyst couldnt even forcestart the Citadel relay to summon the reaper armada, so one have to wonder, is the catalysts powers limited to giving out commands?
    That's what he was supposed to say according to the leaked script back in november, I have no idea why they've changed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moontalon View Post
    That assumes either A) she has a Reaper body of her own, which, again, there was nothing that I can recall in the cinematic to suggest that, or B) she can pull a Harbinger.

    And again, I don't think it was actually Shepard talking in the cinematic. The entire monologue, she referred to Shepard and herself as two separate entities. The language she used suggested that Shepard's death gave birth to whatever it was that was speaking.
    If <whatever> is in charge of the reapers and can control and direct them then they can easily control a reaper body for the purposes of talking through. While it is just a narrative the ending scene at least implies that <whatever> is still capable of individual communication rather then just being what Legion became with the geth. Legion is no more but Shepard is still <whatever>.

    If <whatever> can't control a reaper for the purposes of communication then they aren't really in control of them and can't direct them. <whatever> has to be able to do A and/or B otherwise it invalidates the Control ending and how it set up <whatever>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    The original catalyst couldnt even forcestart the Citadel relay to summon the reaper armada, so one have to wonder, is the catalysts powers limited to giving out commands?
    That is because the Protheans made it impossible for the Citadel to initiate itself on its own. They modified the keepers so the Citadel would never known the Reapers were ready for the attack. That is why Sovereign was using the Geth because he saw a machine as a more reliable tool then engineered organics.This is also why Sovereign had to reach the Citadel instead of just communicating with it.

    We know that the catalyst is bound by programing. Even if it wanted to activate the relay the keepers could have been stopping it themselves. And the Catalyst could have been bound to not harm/destroy the keepers by programing or because it needed the Keepers to keep itself functioning over the cycles. The latter would explain why Sovereign was bringing the Geth to use as a tool rather then just activate the Citadel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post

    That is because the Protheans made it impossible for the Citadel to initiate itself on its own. They modified the keepers so the Citadel would never known the Reapers were ready for the attack. That is why Sovereign was using the Geth because he saw a machine as a more reliable tool then engineered organics.This is also why Sovereign had to reach the Citadel instead of just communicating with it.

    We know that the catalyst is bound by programing. Even if it wanted to activate the relay the keepers could have been stopping it themselves. And the Catalyst could have been bound to not harm/destroy the keepers by programing or because it needed the Keepers to keep itself functioning over the cycles. The latter would explain why Sovereign was bringing the Geth to use as a tool rather then just activate the Citadel.
    They disabled the keepers ability to recognize the signal, they didnt disable the catalyst.
    Sovereign using Saren&geth to invade and jumpstart it from inside.

    The catalyst, being the citadel, should had been able to activate it on its own.
    It didnt. Mostly because it wasnt there during ME1.

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    So good.
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    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    They disabled the keepers ability to recognize the signal, they didnt disable the catalyst.
    If your cell phone never gets the call, how do you know that someone was trying to call you? It might also take more then just a flip of a switch to turn the Citadel into a relay. The keepers might have to reorganize the place and do a bunch of work which again isn't possible if they never get the signal.
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    So good.
    Saw the Mordin one on Facebook. Wanted to cuddle it SO hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moontalon View Post
    Saw the Mordin one on Facebook. Wanted to cuddle it SO hard.[COLOR="red"]
    The Asari ones are probably my favorite. Especially Liara. Always had a thing for Liara. That reminds me.

    I had a topic I was gonna bring up but it's probably better to just do it in this thread. After going through the series over all these years who is your ultimate ME romance? For me it begins and ends with Liara. I love her character. I know people who remind of her IRL. Theirs a vulnerability about her that I always found kinda sexy. It feels so silly to say that about a fucking video game character but yea that's why I always picked her when I could.
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    I had a topic I was gonna bring up but it's probably better to just do it in this thread. After going through the series over all these years who is your ultimate ME romance? I'd definetly go with liara. I love her character. I know people who remind of her IRL.
    Kaidan! Kaidan, Kaidan, Kaidan. I love his personality and his looks. He's awkward and shy but that just makes him even more loveable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moontalon View Post
    Kaidan! Kaidan, Kaidan, Kaidan. I love his personality and his looks. He's awkward and shy but that just makes him even more loveable.
    Heh, I picked him for a dumb reason. Banging an alien just seems too weird and there aren't any other male humans that appear in all three games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orissa View Post
    Heh, I picked him for a dumb reason. Banging an alien just seems too weird and there aren't any other male humans that appear in all three games.
    rofl I thought he was cute the first time I saw him in ME1 and I was playing FemShep so I was like "Heeeey love interest." And it went from there. XD

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    Garrus. I loved Garrus from the start and was deeply saddened by him not being romanceable in the first one, but overjoyed that they allowed it in the 2nd one. I actually cried at the end of Me3 and was like "Sorry Garrus, broke my promise." I' know, I'm a sap, but ah well.

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    Liara. Definitely Liara. Everything about her is <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelwryn View Post
    Garrus. I loved Garrus from the start and was deeply saddened by him not being romanceable in the first one, but overjoyed that they allowed it in the 2nd one. I actually cried at the end of Me3 and was like "Sorry Garrus, broke my promise." I' know, I'm a sap, but ah well.
    I felt the same way when Shep tells Kaiden she'd never leave him.

    Then she goes and dies

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    liara all the way with miranda for the kicks since she didnt seem so into me in ME2 till the lair of shadow broker. also who said they wanted to cudle litle old me?
    someone else might have gotten it wrong.

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    http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/to.../13493026&lf=8

    Looks like it's in the late stages!

    /Soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/to.../13493026&lf=8

    Looks like it's in the late stages!

    /Soon
    Tested and checked, and sent to certification! That means they're almost done!

    I hope BioWare has a different definition of the word "soon" than Blizzard.

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