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    So what would you guys rate leviathan then? Better than shadow broker? Did you enjoy it overall? it's not that much money to buy I guess but I'm curious what the feed back is like on it.
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    Don't know if it's better than Shadow Broker, but it's damn well up there. The ending feels a bit abrupt, but the included content is absolutely ace. Easily worth the 10 bucks if you're a Mass Effect fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    So what would you guys rate leviathan then? Better than shadow broker? Did you enjoy it overall? it's not that much money to buy I guess but I'm curious what the feed back is like on it.
    I'd say it was less then Shadow Broker but as good as or a little better then the rest. The problem is, in my opinion, is it is a perfect DLC for the style that Mass Effect 3 was created. But I would have liked to see more ME2/ME1 exploring thrown into it. Instead of just using filters, which were pretty awesome, it would have been nice to actually explore a planet a little and have a little more to do along those lines.

    The reason why it is less then Shadow Broker is because it just ends with little to going on after. Where as Shadow Broker added a whole bunch of stuff on the ship to do after the story was finished. I just wonder how much of Leviathan would have been different if the Extended Cut was never done. We might have actually seen some leviathan related endings and epilogues.

    Oh and the ending of Leviathan was a little anti-climatic. Good old Mass Effect fighting turns into a Disney ride while you listen to a narrator. They could have had the leviathan play a bigger role in the DLC instead of just appearing mostly at the end. I guess I would have liked a longer story even though the short one was okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    They could have had the leviathan play a bigger role in the DLC instead of just appearing mostly at the end. I guess I would have liked a longer story even though the short one was okay.
    He played parts throughout the entire DLC.
    Just because you didnt see him in person from the getgo doesnt mean he wasnt there.

    I found Vega to be the best character this DLC.
    What is this "Datapad to the face!" moment?
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    I saw it as a reference to people on the forums complaining about Banshees and Phantoms.
    Well, just finished the DLC and what can I say... Liara can solo a banshee in 2 sec (ok it's on easy but wtflol).

    Oh, and the DLC in 1 pic:


    There's always a bigger, better, faster fish. And more of them. I'm pretty sure this DLC won't be in the official Mass Effect lore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    So what would you guys rate leviathan then? Better than shadow broker? Did you enjoy it overall? it's not that much money to buy I guess but I'm curious what the feed back is like on it.
    Leviathan was a ton of fun, personally. I quite enjoyed learning about the origin of my bro Harbinger. But the ME2 DLCs blew me out of the water. Don't get me wrong, Levi was more than worth the cost, but Lair/Arrival/Overlord were so great.

    Brought Garrus and Javik along for this DLC. Expected Javik to make comments about Levi, but then Levi turned out to not be a Reaper as rumor had claimed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    I found Vega to be the best character this DLC.
    What is this "Datapad to the face!" moment?
    Paragon interrupt at the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    He played parts throughout the entire DLC.
    Just because you didnt see him in person from the getgo doesnt mean he wasnt there.
    I know that, hence why I said mostly at the end. It would have been nice to have more content after you meet Leviathan rather then it being the ending or to have more build up then fighting on a floating ship and watching a interactive cutscene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    So what would you guys rate leviathan then? Better than shadow broker? Did you enjoy it overall? it's not that much money to buy I guess but I'm curious what the feed back is like on it.
    Quite frankly, it is damn hard to top Lair of the Shadow Broker. This is probably more along the lines of Overlord, just not as trippy. It is long enough, you get quite a few handy tools and items, you also get quite a few cool experiences. Some parts of the story might come off as odd, but it wasn't a bad DLC in comparison to a lot of the other crap tossed at people in various games.

    I certainly didn't feel like I lost money on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuanrang View Post
    Quite frankly, it is damn hard to top Lair of the Shadow Broker. This is probably more along the lines of Overlord, just not as trippy. It is long enough, you get quite a few handy tools and items, you also get quite a few cool experiences. Some parts of the story might come off as odd, but it wasn't a bad DLC in comparison to a lot of the other crap tossed at people in various games.

    I certainly didn't feel like I lost money on that.
    Lair is a hard one to top. The fight with the Shadow Broker is fun (and painful for some classes,) the sound track is great, the banter between Liara and Shepard during the car chase is great (what sort of weapons does this thing have? It's a taxi! It has a fare meter!) and it's overall a cinematic experience (but then, what part of the game isn't?)

    Maybe if we got to ride Leviathan like a horse into the Battle for Earth . . . maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    I know that, hence why I said mostly at the end. It would have been nice to have more content after you meet Leviathan rather then it being the ending or to have more build up then fighting on a floating ship and watching a interactive cutscene.
    Perhaps.
    But interesting how Bioware decided to debunk any possible indoctrination theory by showing us that Shepard is more than able to realise when he is indoctrinated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Perhaps.
    But interesting how Bioware decided to debunk any possible indoctrination theory by showing us that Shepard is more than able to realise when he is indoctrinated.
    Well, everyone else realized it too.
    Leviathans "indoctrination" is more a brute force control method than influence really.

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    Well, everyone else realized it too.
    Leviathans "indoctrination" is more a brute force control method than influence really.
    Well no, not everyone.
    The only other person to realize levi's control was Ann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Well no, not everyone.
    The only other person to realize levi's control was Ann.
    They all spoke of being in a cold dark place, normal indoctrination subjects experience the same place only believing something else. Subjects of leviathans influence have no control (Shepard was fighting the control itself, with little time spent around the orbs and probably crazy tech/beacon stuff helping, not fighting to prevent actions) and at best remember only patchy images (the people at the mining outpost couldn't remember anything that happened during the 10+ years, the assistant only remembered a gun and a loud noise).

    Just compare Saren (a long time indoctranee) with the people at the mining post, they were reading off basically set scripts (the subjects seem to be replaced with basic directives, rather than simply influenced) while Saren still had reasoning and even researched indoctrination while under its effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orissa View Post
    Lair is a hard one to top. The fight with the Shadow Broker is fun (and painful for some classes,) the sound track is great, the banter between Liara and Shepard during the car chase is great (what sort of weapons does this thing have? It's a taxi! It has a fare meter!) and it's overall a cinematic experience (but then, what part of the game isn't?)

    Maybe if we got to ride Leviathan like a horse into the Battle for Earth . . . maybe.
    I came back to ME after a few months of not touching any of the 3 games just to experience the new Levi DLC and the Extended cut.

    To be honest you can´t compare LotSB to Leviathan. Why? Lair was without doubt the best DLC in all of the 3 games not only story wise but also design and mission wise. I still remember the mission with the sky cab chase, that was pure epicness. Leviathan was kinda fun and I absolutely loved the new lore you gain about the Reapers and how everything started out with them (my good old friend Harbringer)

    The DLC lacks a few more missions or exploring tho. I like the concept of those search filters but it would have been nice if you would need to go to a few worlds, look for Leviathan you know just to stretch it out a bit. Overall it felt a bit short (Only has 3 real missions the rest is in the lab). Worth the money tho

    One point why you can´t compare Lair to Levi is also that Levi lacks a true "endboss" fight. The Shadow Broker fight was extremely good and entertaining to be honest. The Leviathan story however does end too fast and abrupt. You know you dive down, meet Levi, ask him some questions and everything is done and Levi does not play any role after that *dreams of Leviathan fighting against Harbringer in the final battle on Earth - that would be an epic showdown*

    The new DLC is in my top 4 of all ME DLCs (Nr.1 Lair, Nr.2 Arrival, Nr.3 Overlord, Nr. 4 Leviathan) however it is not quite on par with Lair, Arrival and Overlord both story wise and mission (fun) wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    I came back to ME after a few months of not touching any of the 3 games just to experience the new Levi DLC and the Extended cut.

    To be honest you can´t compare LotSB to Leviathan. Why? Lair was without doubt the best DLC in all of the 3 games not only story wise but also design and mission wise. I still remember the mission with the sky cab chase, that was pure epicness. Leviathan was kinda fun and I absolutely loved the new lore you gain about the Reapers and how everything started out with them (my good old friend Harbringer)

    The DLC lacks a few more missions or exploring tho. I like the concept of those search filters but it would have been nice if you would need to go to a few worlds, look for Leviathan you know just to stretch it out a bit. Overall it felt a bit short (Only has 3 real missions the rest is in the lab). Worth the money tho

    One point why you can´t compare Lair to Levi is also that Levi lacks a true "endboss" fight. The Shadow Broker fight was extremely good and entertaining to be honest. The Leviathan story however does end too fast and abrupt. You know you dive down, meet Levi, ask him some questions and everything is done and Levi does not play any role after that *dreams of Leviathan fighting against Harbringer in the final battle on Earth - that would be an epic showdown*

    The new DLC is in my top 4 of all ME DLCs (Nr.1 Lair, Nr.2 Arrival, Nr.3 Overlord, Nr. 4 Leviathan) however it is not quite on par with Lair, Arrival and Overlord both story wise and mission (fun) wise.
    True "endboss" fight is too videogamey.

    I can't bear to drag myself in one Starbrat apologetic DLC, and then run through the lot of bullcrap they make after Kai Leng, just to have the same narrative kidnap, with the only "b-onus" of having a bug that don't play cinematics when you talk to Starbrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaira View Post
    *dreams of Leviathan fighting against Harbringer in the final battle on Earth - that would be an epic showdown*
    Levi shits on reapers, it would be a hit and squash.

    Only two people liked the assistant.
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    I liked the DLC, and feel it's worth the money. The detective parts and accompanying banter were very enjoyable. I just wished they'd do more with the underwater part at the end. It's criminally short and I was fully expecting some sort of obstacle course where you have to mind the pressure guage while taking potshots at enemy forces chasing after you. A missed opportunity really.

    I didn't really mind the lack of an 'end-boss' type encounter. Learning about the true nature of Leviathan was juicy enough in and of itself.

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