1. #13581
    Quote Originally Posted by CrossNgen View Post
    Sure, but you're looking at it gameplay wise, not story wise, shepard needs resources.
    Renegade Shepard needs only Priority missions to get all the resources he needs.
    Paragon Shepard needs all available resources.

  2. #13582
    Quote Originally Posted by ag666 View Post
    Renegade Shepard needs only Priority missions to get all the resources he needs.
    Paragon Shepard needs all available resources.

    And why can't a renegade shepard have both?

  3. #13583
    Quote Originally Posted by CrossNgen View Post
    And why can't a renegade shepard have both?
    Becasue he's renegade? having both would make him Netrual on that Reputation Bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag666 View Post
    Renegade Shepard needs only Priority missions to get all the resources he needs.
    Paragon Shepard needs all available resources.
    Actually you are right. In most of my full renegade playthroughs I ignore all those meaningless side missions and also the "chilling" on the citadel (all those squadmates that want to meet you on the citadel, fetch quests) because I have to defeat the reapers and not bring this salarian a heating unit stabilizer. That´s why there are "Priority" missions !!

    They are Priority because they are essential for the mission. Same goes for ME1 !! In ME1 you had to stop Saren and even Joker said in ME2 that it was hell to chase Saren. This implies that Shepard only did the 4 core missions (Noveria, Therum, Feros and Virmire) before directly going to Ilos (hence "chase"). There was no time to do silly missions for Hackett.

    That´s what I found silly ever since I first played ME. You are supposed to chase down Saren to stop the Arrival of the Reapers yet you have like 30 pointless side missions plus all those collect quests (minerals). ME2 is the same. You have to stop the collectors yet you have like 25 silly bandit killing missions that have zero connection to your mission.

    If I play a pure Renegade then my Shepard only focuses on his main goals in the 3 games and not about silly side missions or planets scanning. This is Renegade for me !! Doing everything available is Paragon for me (Shep as care bear that wants to help everyone)

  5. #13585
    Because renegade is cold efficiency.
    You simply dont have time to travel far away to save 20 people when you need to get your ass to pick up that thessia prothean artifact that may end the war ASAP.
    Renegade will sacrifise to achieve victory(and save alot more in the process). Paragon will attempt to save everyone and risk everyone dying. Hes, like Jack so lovingly put it, "King of the boy scouts".
    Its the Anti-guardian Emiya vs Master Emiya in F/SN UBW if anyone ever read/watched it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Because renegade is cold efficiency.
    You simply dont have time to travel far away to save 20 people when you need to get your ass to pick up that thessia prothean artifact that may end the war ASAP.
    Renegade will sacrifise to achieve victory(and save alot more in the process). Paragon will attempt to save everyone and risk everyone dying. Hes, like Jack so lovingly put it, "King of the boy scouts".
    Its the Anti-guardian Emiya vs Master Emiya in F/SN UBW if anyone ever read/watched it.
    I actually like your suggestion on the last page about a "countdown clock" in ME3 that shows you how many time you have left until the reapers win. That would be like the time between when the collectors abducted your crew and you went through the Omega-4 relay.

    You had to choose to either go immediately and save your whole crew or wait, further prepare but sacrifice your crew. This would be amazing for ME3 !!

    A timer that runs out after a set amount of missions and each additional mission causes some bad things to happen and the more missions you do the more severe those things get (dunno what this could be maybe some characters dying or other bad things)

  7. #13587
    I would actually like the counter to start at the beginning of the game, but be hidden.
    In ME2 you just did everything until you picked up the IFF so you didnt risk anything.
    It was a good idea, but it was too lenient.

    You really should be forced to prioritize for yourself and make decisions and gamble on what can you do?
    Give it real replay value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    I would actually like the counter to start at the beginning of the game, but be hidden.
    In ME2 you just did everything until you picked up the IFF so you didnt risk anything.
    It was a good idea, but it was too lenient.

    You really should be forced to prioritize for yourself and make decisions and gamble on what can you do?
    Give it real replay value.
    Yeah a hidden clock that starts after leaving earth would work. This way you would have to decide to either stick to the Priority missions only or do additional side missions and each one adds some negative consequences the more of those missions you do.

    This way you would actually be forced to prioritize a bit (hence the Priority missions) You have to stop a reaper harvest and not bring a bunch of dudes on the citadel some artifacts

  9. #13589
    It would be better not as a counter but a Huge Holo Image of Earth and a dry number with % symbol at the end - showing you how much Earth is still intact. And then later in the story add Palaven Holo and Thesia Holo. And numbers will decrease by some amount after each non-esential side mission, and by time you spent in game drinking in Purgatory, strolling around the Citadel Vistas, afking while reading this thread, etc. If any of the numbers reach 0 - game's over. The bigger the number at the end the higher chances for better ending.

    So paragons will save every non-esential bastard to sacrifice more in the end, while Renegade will sacrifice a few right away (including himself) to save lots in the end.

  10. #13590
    Well it shouldnt tick down from afkin, but rather completing objectives.
    Remember that ME3 lasted for several weeks ingame, you didnt gather everyone in 3 days.
    And the holos are good, but without the numbers.
    The tension goes away if you have something so accurate, but it will work if you can see the worlds fall before your eyes and you can only guess how much time you have left.

    In the end, the paragons will be left standing with more people around him with a darker galaxy behind him while the renegade will stand alone with many worlds on his back.

    Mike Gamble, are you taking notes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Well it shouldnt tick down from afkin, but rather completing objectives.
    Remember that ME3 lasted for several weeks ingame, you didnt gather everyone in 3 days.
    And the holos are good, but without the numbers.
    The tension goes away if you have something so accurate, but it will work if you can see the worlds fall before your eyes and you can only guess how much time you have left.

    In the end, the paragons will be left standing with more people around him with a darker galaxy behind him while the renegade will stand alone with many worlds on his back.

    Mike Gamble, are you taking notes?
    Well those holos would work perfectly to visualize you that those worlds are slowly being wiped out. In the current game you have no images during the campaign that show you how the fightings on the home planets against the Reapers get worse and worse so you feel no real hurry.

    The holos without the numbers would be great to remind you how those guys are suffering while you are minding your business on the citadel helping some random dudes and recover artifacts and rescue pupils while Earth is on fire.

  12. #13592
    Yeah, without numbers and really visual would be more dramatic.
    Though I would even count offline time. Finished Mars mission and decided that's it for today? Ha! return tomorrow to only see Galaxy completely harvested.

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    I have taught you well, young one.

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    masseffect It's that time of year again, and love is in the air! Tell us about your favorite Mass Effect romance. pic.twitter.com/o1FN5Qtg

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    Ugh im gonna be sick, im gonna report it if you dont take it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Ugh im gonna be sick, im gonna report it if you dont take it down.
    It is not. There is nothing wrong with that image.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    It is not. There is nothing wrong with that image.
    That´s just our grumpy Gravath His brain probably overloaded after seeing that much "love".

    Nah just kidding.

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    Valentines is just a shop holiday to make consuments spend more money than they should, simply because modern love is materialistic.
    You need to buy love, you need to pay a subscription to love, and you need to buy special items to prove you love someone.
    Or rather, because of human lust. Because they lust for flesh, will they abandon reason and true feelings of love.
    A carnal desire, hidden behind a veil of emotion, sponsored by corporate greed and human foolishness and fear of rejection.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusive Man View Post
    That´s just our grumpy Gravath His brain probably overloaded after seeing that much "love".
    I could do with love between good characters.
    You just singled out two of the worst.
    You just forgot adding Jacob as the third wheel, Battle tits and the Al-jazeera reporter.
    Ugh, its like watching a genocide or a Fox reportage, but theres nothing amusing about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    It is not. There is nothing wrong with that image.
    Your avatar betrays your personal bias.
    I demand a more... solid moderator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    I could do with love between good characters.
    You just singled out two of the worst.
    You just forgot adding Jacob as the third wheel, Battle tits and the Al-jazeera reporter.
    Ugh, its like watching a genocide or a Fox reportage, but theres nothing amusing about it.


    Your avatar betrays your personal bias.
    I demand a more... solid moderator.
    Hey that´s not my artwork Tell that to the guys that create ME artworks at BW.

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    You spread that filth to my mind.
    You are as guilty as those mongrels.

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