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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossNgen View Post
    I never understood that myself, they give you 4 choices right at the end to a series based on making decisions.
    And I always felt your previous choices DID matter. They mattered at Tuchanka. They mattered at Rannoch. Who cares if they didn't matter if the last 10 minutes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myobi View Post
    ^

    Weapon: Venom X
    - 200% CDs, 3-4 shots to kill an atlas in insane.

    I hope to never see that weapon in MP.
    Yeah Venom is insanely good in SP same goes for the Typhoon.

    Typhoon so powerful that Ashley and Garrus could do insanity alone.

    They should totally add another difficulty to SP. Something that is 10 times harder than insanity is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusive Man View Post
    Yeah Venom is insanely good in SP same goes for the Typhoon.

    Typhoon so powerful that Ashley and Garrus could do insanity alone.

    They should totally add another difficulty to SP. Something that is 10 times harder than insanity is now.
    The only class I have difficulty with on Insanity is Vanguard, and that's entirely because I stupidly charge into shit without thinking.

    Insanity is easy on an Infiltrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    The only class I have difficulty with on Insanity is Vanguard, and that's entirely because I stupidly charge into shit without thinking.

    Insanity is easy on an Infiltrator.
    Doing it with my Evil Shep Destoyer of Worlds ~
    With a Venom X it's like playing it in easy =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    And I always felt your previous choices DID matter. They mattered at Tuchanka. They mattered at Rannoch. Who cares if they didn't matter if the last 10 minutes?
    The CoD generation. *dons flame-repellant*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myobi View Post
    Doing it with my Evil Shep Destoyer of Worlds ~
    With a Venom X it's like playing it in easy =/
    I have a Venom X on my soldier but never actually used it. Maybe I'm gonna try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    And I always felt your previous choices DID matter. They mattered at Tuchanka. They mattered at Rannoch. Who cares if they didn't matter if the last 10 minutes?
    My opinion exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    And I always felt your previous choices DID matter. They mattered at Tuchanka. They mattered at Rannoch. Who cares if they didn't matter if the last 10 minutes?
    That's exactly my point! I also felt like they mattered, up to and including the massive final battle. After that, your choices simply don't matter at all. Paragon or Renegade, the final choices are the same. That's what bothers me the most.

    Maybe the final choices should have had a Paragon and Renegade choice within them. For example:

    • Control: the Paragon choice would let Shepard help rebuild after choosing Control -- the Renegade choice would let Shepard immediately order all Reapers to leave.
    • Destroy: the Paragon option would severely damage the Citadel and the Mass Relays, but spare all synthetics from destruction -- the Renegade option would spare the Citadel and the Mass Relays, but destroy all synthetics.
    • Refusal: the Paragon choice shows Shepard falling down and give up -- the Renegade choice would make Shepard use his/her omni-tool to destroy the StarChild.
    • Synthesis: Choosing the Paragon option would cause Shepard sacrifice him-/herself for synthesis -- choosing the Renegade option would cause Shepard to cut of his/her hand and throw that into the beam.
    Statix will suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Statix View Post
    That's exactly my point! I also felt like they mattered, up to and including the massive final battle. After that, your choices simply don't matter at all. Paragon or Renegade, the final choices are the same. That's what bothers me the most.
    The final choices are absolutely not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossNgen View Post
    The final choices are absolutely not the same.
    Yeah the final choices differ. If you have low EMS and destroyed the collector base in ME2 you only have the destroy option and if you preserved it you only have control.

    Also the aftermath differs. If you are renegade your control Shepard talks about protecting the galaxy with iron fist and a paragon one is mich more benelovent and wants to protect the galaxy and be a good leader.

    They would have to create 100 different endings if they had to consider every choice that could affect the outcom. That's simply not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusive Man View Post
    That's simply not possible.
    I for one would had preferred a DA/Fallout 3 style ending.
    You complete the mission (firing crucible, wiping out all mechanics), epilogue starts with a scene for how each of your decisions and actions affected the time to come afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusive Man View Post
    They would have to create 100 different endings if they had to consider every choice that could affect the outcom. That's simply not possible.
    Nope. They would have to create 100 different slides to show in Extended Cut DLC. Not Endings. And then combine slides on the fly - just how they do it anyway. That is possible and very simple to do.
    We have 3 choices, 3 reputations (R/N/P), 3 EMS modes. That gives us just 27 Endings for the story. Now there would be a lot of slides but hey - It's A DLC that added them in the first place. Before that we had NOTHING at all in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ag666 View Post
    Before that we had NOTHING at all in the end.
    Thats not true.
    We got anger and sorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag666 View Post
    Nope. They would have to create 100 different slides to show in Extended Cut DLC. Not Endings. And then combine slides on the fly - just how they do it anyway. That is possible and very simple to do.
    We have 3 choices, 3 reputations (R/N/P), 3 EMS modes. That gives us just 27 Endings for the story. Now there would be a lot of slides but hey - It's A DLC that added them in the first place. Before that we had NOTHING at all in the end.
    Oh, you've also forgot every other choice you've made through the 3 games.

    It's by no means "Simple".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossNgen View Post
    Oh, you've also forgot every other choice you've made through the 3 games.

    It's by no means "Simple".
    Of course I meant epilogue and not ending but as you said it would not be easy to add that many different outcomes to the epilogue.

    All those descisions throughout the series would extend the epilogue by 1 hour and who wants to see it every time?

    I was never butthurt even after I saw the original endings and so I really hate to see that this is still being discussed after that much time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Thats not true.
    We got anger and sorrow
    That was ours to begin with!

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossNgen View Post
    Oh, you've also forgot every other choice you've made through the 3 games.

    It's by no means "Simple".
    That's not required. They do not depend on the endings. You know what you did already.
    These choices though affect EMS and Paragon/Renegade standing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ag666 View Post
    That was ours to begin with!
    But the explosive addition certainly was... delicious.

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    Are you f**king kidding me?

    N7 Valkyrie. Every goddamn weekend challenge this month.

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    At least the weekend challenges are easy. They just require me to log on for 5 mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shop Ebay View Post
    At least the weekend challenges are easy. They just require me to log on for 5 mins.
    Yeah they are prety easy. I did the current weekend challenge in a single pug gold match as 20k banshee points isn't that much if you consider the 100 banshees that spawn on gold

    Had that N7 sniper rifle in my pack.

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