Aaaanyway. Been playing my second playthrough alongside the iOS app and it's actually a nice addition. I can't wait to get the message when Tali is drinking through the straw... err, I mean "emergency induction port". Any of the decisions haven't really been easier the second time through. This time I actually didn't punch the bitchy reporter on the Citadel and to my surprise she joined my cause. Thane's death wasn't any easier the second time through either... I still shed a few tears. That bloody scene is just so sad! I do find it a bit "funny" that after the scene when you leave the Citadel Kaidan joins me on the Normandy and that scene just cracks me up. Such a "Datass!"-moment I can't help but giggling. My emotions are on a rollercoaster again.
And I'm actually curious.. Is it the EMS that affects whether you can convince TIM to turn down or not in the last part? I had that bit over 4000 EMS the first time I played the game through and I couldn't convince him with a full Paragon score. Or do you need the second playthrough for it or something? I'm still a bit unsure what actually affects it.
This thread is just so amusing !! All those guys and their stupid spoiler tags. Do you think anyone who has not played the game yet and does not want to be spoiled klicks right in to a ME3 thread where there is a lot of spoilers?
It´s just tedious to read this thread, sigh
So yes. "Stupid spoiler tags" aren't stupid imo. There's a reason they're there.
If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.
Just started my insanity playthrough, the more I think about the ending, the indoctrination theory rings true.
shoot Udina the first time around because Kaidan wouldn't trust me and I had to talk him down, after which he shot Udina himself. No paragon/renegade options for me that time around. They eventually back down in both scenarios, I just had to go through a lot more conversation before Kaidan would trust me. Did you have a previous relationship with Kaidan in either playthrough? I noticed that the playthrough where we had a previous romance was also the one where he immediately trusted me.
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but in this playthrough Thane wasn't there, so Kai Leng killed the Salarian Counselor, and Udina use altered videos to frame me for killing the Counselor, but the Asari Counselor listened to my Shepard and went to shut down the elevator. Udina pushed her down, and pulled a gun, and I got the option to shoot him.
My second play through was with Kaidan and different council from ME1 Neither side lowered our weapons. Kaidan was still uncertain. Udina went to open the door, but the Asari counselor said no, and pushed him away from it. He pushed her to the ground, and I got to shoot him.
So ya, I guess their reaction was a little different, but I guess we'd have to do:
Kaidan + Original Council
Kaidan + New Council
Ashley + Original
Ashley + New
to figure it out.... ugh that's a lot of playthroughs.
after you get shot by the red beam on earth just before reaching the teleporter, everything that happens is you being indoctrinated by the reaper that shot you
I don't agree with it, but if they put that twist on the actual game I would be amused. But then I didn't really have a huge problem with the green ending anyway.
I actually had a playthrough where my Shepard romanced Kaidan and stayed true to him and I could convince him that I was right about Udina immediately. I also got the Renegade option to shoot Udina, but when I didn't do it then Kaidan pulled the trigger. I also saved the original Council and Thane was alive to kick Kai Leng's ass. So I guess it has something to do with your current relationship status.
doctored footage of the Salarian councilor being killed to show to everyone. All the same, in the playthrough where I saved the council, the Asari councilor said something along the lines of "We were wrong to not trust you last time, so we'll trust you this time." I guess that's probably the only line that's directly influenced by whether you saved the council (aside from them remembering you in earlier convos). Everything else can probably be attributed to your situation with Kaidan and whether Thane is present or not.
edit: This has been bugging me for a long while now: is it possible to both save Mordin and cure the genophage?
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shoot Udina and don't take it, at least Kaidan pulls the trigger. I personally have no idea about Ashley since I didn't port my playthrough where she survived yet.
It's the future, true cyborgs - a fusion of both organics and technology, comprising the strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither.
Seriously, we spent the entire first game opposing this idea.
Of course, that whole thing was about indoctrination. If you really want to argue about reaper indoctrination we can, but I don't care enough.
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EDIT: [I]"During the second Tuchanka mission in Mass Effect 3, you can choose whether to cure the genophage, or sabotage it.
If you cure it, Mordin dies in an explosion. If you sabotage it, you are forced to kill Mordin to do so. However, you can save Mordin if both Wrex isn't alive and you destroyed Maleon's data in ME2. Additionally, if you don't cure the genophage and Wrex is alive, you are forced to kill him when he finds out that the cure was fake."[/I]