1. #11641
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    All of the endings in Mass Effect 3 where touched upon somewhere in the games. Not everything was a main plot, or secondary plot. Nor does it need to be. Even Synthesis was touched upon by Edi in one of her conversations in Mass effect 3. It was something that Liara and her were discussing about how if there was enough energy could matter be changed into something else.

    The endings were hardly a last 5 minute ditch attempt. They just weren't what everyone was expecting or wanting. Mass effect 3 was exceptional on all fronts. Combat, Multiplayer, Story, Music, Graphics and anything else. But the problem with choose your own adveturer games and anything Bioware has made is that it is still with in the confines of what Bioware wants.
    They didnt really, and it fits in less the more you play it, you have a couple of times where you speak to reapers(Harbinger, sovereign, rannoch reaper) and they never actually come out and say the whole synthetics versus organics thing, the closest they actually say is Order Versus chaos, they actually mostly say " you cant comprehend" yet there is the catalyst sitting waiting with an explanation for you, that you can comprehend.

    The catalyst/starkid/VI is never foreshadowed throughout the whole series,(until you buy the leviathan DLC that wasn't even planned before release), theres alot of things about the games that dont make sense in the context of events that happen, the whole storyline of 2, why would they go through the motions of making a human reaper when their whole reaper army can be in the galaxy 6 months later.

    Why were they fixated in shepard for the whole of 2 and then not interested at all in 3?

    Why did sovereign go through the whole ordeal revealing the reapers existence in the first one by bringing the reapers to the galaxy via the citadel, when the reapers can just come to the galaxy 2 and a half years later anyway?

    Its clear that theres just so much uneven planning in the whole series, they dont even seem to have a consistent storyline they followed through the whole 3, thats how they ended up with an ending that just didnt "fit".

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    Speculation and opinions. Please don't attempt to present them as proven fact.

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    Its just rhorle being wrong.

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    MP in a nutshell (yeah, had the powers suddenly stop working thing happen mid-game too...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakobo15 View Post
    MP in a nutshell (yeah, had the powers suddenly stop working thing happen mid-game too...)
    Thats not MP in a nutshell, you werent disconnected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakobo15 View Post
    Im gonna do the weekend challenge, tag along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Im gonna do the weekend challenge, tag along.
    rofl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakobo15 View Post
    And BioWare wants more people to join Gold and Platinum. >.<
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    I only saw a few minutes of it but it looked slicker than a lubed up olympic swimmer fleeing from a shark.

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    Well, I just found my Christmas gift!

    Last edited by Oerba Yun Fang; 2012-11-16 at 10:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakobo15 View Post
    Ah yes, the game where i got 10sec delays because of your SWTOR download..

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    Got meself the Eagle. The last promotional was unlocked.

    Though I did miss a whole fucking lot of weekend challenges in the past. The promotional weapon ranks for me are 1-1-4-4-1 in order on the N7 HQ.

    Got my gold weps on rank 10 anyway. I got lucky and got several ultra rare cards on my last 10-15 packs, and then I realized, I only managed to max out both of my Volus. FML.

    My challenge was complete with me dead far away with only 1 person staying alive. I guess I was mistaken to believe that you had to be alive for the extraction.

    Meh, MP is more than enough to fill my ME dosage until Omega comes out. Then, I'm gonna have my room decorated with wall to wall Aria posters.
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    Then, I'm gonna have my room decorated with wall to wall Aria posters.
    Bioware should take a note from EA and start whoring out with merch.
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    Trinity
    I quite enjoy this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erin View Post
    I only saw a few minutes of it but it looked slicker than a lubed up olympic swimmer fleeing from a shark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyUK View Post
    They didnt really, and it fits in less the more you play it, you have a couple of times where you speak to reapers(Harbinger, sovereign, rannoch reaper) and they never actually come out and say the whole synthetics versus organics thing, the closest they actually say is Order Versus chaos, they actually mostly say " you cant comprehend" yet there is the catalyst sitting waiting with an explanation for you, that you can comprehend.
    Every game in Mass Effect has touched on Synthetics versus organics and has had it as a theme. You have the Geth rebelling against their creators and being used to kill organics in 1. Mass effect 2 introduces Legion and shows that not all Geth want to kill humans and you get to some of the hate towards AI with Tali's trial. Mass effect 3 has it come to a head where you broker peace or kill the geth on rannoch.


    The catalyst/starkid/VI is never foreshadowed throughout the whole series,(until you buy the leviathan DLC that wasn't even planned before release), theres alot of things about the games that dont make sense in the context of events that happen, the whole storyline of 2, why would they go through the motions of making a human reaper when their whole reaper army can be in the galaxy 6 months later.
    Never foreshadowed? We learn that the keepers are really creations of the Reapers in Mass Effect 1. We also learn that they routinely rebuild random sections of the Citadel and are controlled by something in the Citadel. We also learn that the heart of the Citadel that houses the Lifesupport and base controls has never been found. It foreshadows that something is keeping the Citadel running over the thousands of years and that either the Keepers are in control or something else is.

    Leviathan was always planned and of course you won't here about a surprise secret character until their role is revealed. Every one thought the Wizard in Wizard of OZ was a floating head until it is revealed that it really is just a man behind a curtain. The Catalyst has never been seen before by anyone in any of the cycles since the first. Why would you expect there to be something about it?

    The Collectors were a contingency plan of the Reapers. They only came into play because the normal cycle was broken by the Protheans when they modified the Keepers. They were activated by the rest of the Reapers to help prepare the way while they made the long trek through Dark Space. And why not build a human reaper? Its what was going to happen once the Invasion started anyways.

    Everything that happened in 3 was in previous games in some form.

    Why were they fixated in shepard for the whole of 2 and then not interested at all in 3?
    Because Shepard was in their face trying to stop them. Mass Effect 2 was really about The Illusive Man and his drive for Technology to give him ultimate power. Mass Effect 1 already established Cerberus as performing experiments on Husks. Mass Effect 2 was about The Illusive Man gaining access to what was beyond the Omega Relay. The Collectors focused on Shepard because Shepard was focusing on them.

    The reapers never cared about Shepard individually. In Mass Effect 3 they came in force instead one reaper or a small force of reaper aligned forces. There were just so many of them that they didn't have to worry about stopping Shepard. But there are still plenty of clashes between the Reapers and Shepard's goals in ME 3.

    Why did sovereign go through the whole ordeal revealing the reapers existence in the first one by bringing the reapers to the galaxy via the citadel, when the reapers can just come to the galaxy 2 and a half years later anyway?
    Why drive your car to work when you could just walk? It also was because the Citadel was designed by the Reapers to be a galactic hub and to influence technology of the cycle and be the source of cycle's galactic government. They could cut head off of the cycle's body in one swift jump.

    Its clear that theres just so much uneven planning in the whole series, they dont even seem to have a consistent storyline they followed through the whole 3, thats how they ended up with an ending that just didnt "fit".
    Dislike isn't the same as didn't fit. Synthetics versus Organics has been hinted at. People and Lore in the games hinted at something beyond just the reapers and mass murder. Just because it wasn't something you knew about doesn't mean it doesn't fit.

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    Bioware should take a note from EA and start whoring out with merch.
    They already do and have been since before EA bought them.

    http://biowarestore.com/brands/mass-effect.html
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    "It had robots so they hinted at synthesis!"
    No fucking no.
    Synthesis was never meant to happen, dark energy ending was meant to happen where you had to choose between sacrifising the humanity to utilize the reapers, or killing the reapers and (try to) deal with it on your own but they turned around in ME3.
    Stop pulling for straws obnoxiously for something wrong.
    Last edited by Gravath; 2012-11-17 at 12:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Synthesis was never meant to happen, dark energy ending was meant to happen where you had to choose between sacrifising the humanity to utilize the reapers, or killing the reapers and (try to) deal with it on your own but they turned around in ME3.
    ...and people are saying current endings are horrible? They should be damn thankful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuanrang View Post
    ...and people are saying current endings are horrible? They should be damn thankful.
    The potential denial ending might have been letting the black energy swallow up and destroy the entire universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuanrang View Post
    ...and people are saying current endings are horrible? They should be damn thankful.
    A magical space wave turning everything into cyborgs instantly?
    Yeah...

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    I liked the endings ;-;

    I just disliked Starchild's scene.

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