Soccer - why is there always fighting & riots?

[Evil Inside]

Alcohol + team rivalry + group mentality = bunch of idiots starting a riot.

[Animaneth]

I guess because here in North America our sports events are very localized. We have NHL for example, that consists only of north american teams playing in north american cities. Soccer transcends borders, it's a lot more global. Clash of cultures and everything that comes with it.

Here in Argentina the tournament is federal, you have teams from several places in the country, however most teams are from one city, having teams that are almost exclusive to a city, also helps to lower the chances of really F*** up people meeting with other F*** up people :P

[Raikon]

There is nothing in the world that compares to the passion you feel for your football (soccer for the americans) team.

That said there is no excuse for such violence. But as has been said above it is very very rare that occurences like yesterday happen.

[Deleted]

It's an insanely boring game and I think fans start to focus on eachother instead of the game as the hours tick away.

As I like to say, time is a serious bitch.

Was it 73 fucking people that died yesterday, in the riots? How can soccer fans really justify that?

Worst wumming I've ever seen

[Deleted]

That's because violent sports such as football, rugby, baseball etc are worse than religion. I swear to god if Iraq had a football club USA would go to war because of that as well.

[Mirko]

Imagine there's like a million highly attended football games per year and like one large scale riot, then there's like ten thousand comparable handegg games per year - taking 100 years for a riot to break out with similar chance of one breaking out.*



* numbers may be highly exaggerated

[Jeleh]

As you most likely know the only reason there are zero riots or fights in scotland or england is because they are made impossible. The fans are kept seperated before the game (the visiting fans travel by police-escorted busses to the stadium), during the game (kept in fenced off boxes and kept in check by police & stewards), and after the game (put directly back onto the buss and driven back under police-escort to their own town/city).

If these securty measurements weren't in place, or would fail dramatically, pretty much every single game in GB would end in violence, and people would die in topgames.

Dont pretend like the difference between GB and what happened in egypt is anything else than working security vs failing security.

Where on earth do you go to watch football? Honestly, I go to my local team games regularly, we do not have police escorts, we do not need to be kept seperated, infact my local club allows away fans into our home club house.

The majority of football is infact peaceful and enjoyable, riots and extreme rivalries are minority cases, especially here in the UK.

[Deleted]

Where on earth do you go to watch football? Honestly, I go to my local team games regularly, we do not have police escorts, we do not need to be kept seperated, infact my local club allows away fans into our home club house.

Lol yeah and if they wouldn't put an army between them, chelsea and manu's fans would go to the pub together in the spirit of healthy competition and comradery.
Oh no wait they would slaughter eachother barehanded and drink eachothers blood. Right.
Good thing you can visit your local team's games without escort tho!

[Deleted]

Lol yeah and if they wouldn't put an army between them, chelsea and manu's fans would go to the pub together in the spirit of healthy competition and comradery.
Oh no wait they would slaughter eachother barehanded and drink eachothers blood. Right.
Good thing you can visit your local team's games without escort tho!

mate youre completely clueless about a lot of things, it's true there are some bellends who want to fight but dont go stereotyping like that coz it's far from the truth

[Deleted]

mate youre completely clueless about a lot of things, it's true there are some bellends who want to fight but dont go stereotyping like that coz it's far from the truth

... Go read about what your own media dubbed "the brittish disease" here, then go read about the massacre LIVEPOOL FANS (a team you seem to sympathise with?) commited here, then sit down and stop talking nonsense.

Your prime minister set up a freaking war cabinet to deal with the problem lol.

But i'm stereotyping. Right.

[Loyola]

Has nothing to do with soccer in particllar. It's called tribalism where men are seing themselves as a part of one tribe that has to be protected. Same stuff goes along with with biker clubs, clans and gangs.
Sport business uses this evolutionary phenomenon to make billions, creating these fake "tribes" to give fans the feeling of belonging to one or another group that has to be worshipped or protected. Very simple.

[Deleted]

And as mentioned, not exactly unique to soccer. Ever had to stand beside a Red Wings fan in a queue for anything? I jest, but they're all gits. :P

I love how it calls Heysel a "massacre". A f*cking tragedy, and it's a massacre? Sure, Reds fans (myself amounst em) can be bastards, but ever heard of the Irriducibili Vallette? The ultra-hard arse Juve fans. They had a "rank" called "fighter", go figure. They were at Heysel. To my knowledge there was at the time and continues to be no hardcore liverpool violent supporters gang, although the odd english club has had em (millwall).

Italian football however...Whats the Roma fans one called? Or Lazio? Or Napoli? I wouldn't want to meet them in the street. British disease my ass. We carry rude words and throw cans of beer (not me personally) but they just stab you and call it a day. Over the last 10 years several english fans in Italy for games have been murdered by opposing fans.

[ripponesan]

People ALWAYS have to find out their limits.

As a normal soccer fan finds out his IQ limit by asking for the time already, he wants to know about his fighting limits.
Those you can only find out by fighting lots of others.

[Deleted]

Often I wonder if a certain percentage of people who come to the stadium do so to watch the game or to entertain themselves in fights against the opposite team's fans as well as the police forces.

theres a film about that :P football factory i think it was called, was about some football fans who just go to games to fight the other teams, there probably are some people who do that.

[Deleted]

I think that someone already said it. There are more football games played than any other sport. There have been violence in hockey as well, in the audience and in the streets. its just that there are so few games being played compared to football. I also think that the american sports are very tightly wrapped in a commercial context with sponsors etc. A American football game is more about a experience for the whole family with bands playing and mascots etc.. a football game in england which is the only major game ive been to was very chatoic with fences etc, it didnt felt like a place were would bring the family. Both experiences was really cool but i dont care about either sport so i left it there.

About the riots , i think its just a matter of poor security meassures by the host. But still i dont think it has to do with the sport or even the fans for that matter(maybe the organized hooligans are uniqe to the sport) its just so many games and arenas and different standards of security.

[mirodin]

I'm not to informed about the crowds in the stadiums around the US, but aren't there no visitor fans? In football (i refuse to call in soccer) there is always a support group folowing a team. It's even worst on local rivalries. Also if the majority of the supporters of one club belong to a spesific ethnic, religious or national group it can cause some troubles.

[Deleted]

First its Football not Soccer, it's the biggest sport in the world both from a playing PoV and spectator wise.

OT yeah that was a crazy incident yesterday, influenced more by politics in Egypt than the football I think, sad times when incidents like that happen

Soccer is an acceptable term for the sport. Don't derail with soccer vs football talk.

[niteline]

Why does nearly every war goes on because of religion?
People need a reason and representing X or Y gives them a reason to fight

[Deleted]

You can barely type and you're as informed about english football as a Somalese dog, I'm perfectly aware of Heysel and other disasters but those are still very rare, albeit tragic, occurances coz atm there's no such thing as "police escorted busses", as I've previously said there are certain cunts who only come to the games to start fights and chant disgusting songs( ibrox, hillsborough, munich ,you name it ) but those are part of a (contained) minority.

Pretty sure i can type better than you can, in more foreign languages than you can - which really isn't hard considering the average brit lacks the abiltiy to speak any foreign language at all. Nice try to attack me on my typing abilities tho (not really).

The only reason those are "rare" incidents is because of security measures, period. If this weren't true, the fans from rivaling teams wouldn't always have to be kept seperated by armed police forces and fences - if those weren't in place, pretty much every single national competition game would end in violence - fact.

---------- Post added 2012-02-02 at 03:40 PM ----------

Why does nearly every war goes on because of religion?
People need a reason and representing X or Y gives them a reason to fight

Wars aren't fought because of religion. Wars are fought because of greed, jealousy, hate, women, whatnot. Religion is just an excuse used that is supposed to somehow justify the war - which is always really about one of the previous mentioned things.

[Deleted]

because we haven't heard this one before...10,000,000,000,000,000 times. get new material if you are going to troll.

personally even in the North America there is riots from time to time, like when Vancouver lost the cup last year.

I was being serious. No one has ever been able to come up with an answer for it.