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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I don't doubt that the gay community will more heavily favor Democrats. Same way the disenfranchised usually vote Democratic. But I was a poor man voting Republican, and gay men and women will likewise vote Republican in what would seem like a self-defeating voting choice.
    Yup I'm sure they're flocking to the GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I dunno about the noon-3PM show I'm talking about, but KFI has an enormous listenership. Their drive-time and morning shows pull big fucking numbers. The SoCal talk radio market is really huge.
    Oh, I'll take your word for it, but it still doesn't represent the feelings of gay people throughout the country.

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    "I'd rather have a job than a ring"! Well good job dude, you've got a job, now how about not thinking its society's business to make that decision for the rest of the gay community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Plus a gay man with a job telling everyone that having jobs is so important that they should vote against equal rights is pretty lulzy.
    He was mostly making a point about how he's gay and voting Romney, and everyone should realize not all gay men and women are lined up behind Obama automatically, simply because of marriage equality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    He was mostly making a point about how he's gay and voting Romney, and everyone should realize not all gay men and women are lined up behind Obama automatically, simply because of marriage equality.
    Just most of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Biston View Post
    There is money in other places too.
    15 million in a single night at a hollywood fundraiser... there's not money like that in many places on the planet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    15 million in a single night at a hollywood fundraiser... there's not money like that in many places on the planet..
    Dude comes down every few months to fuck up traffic and take money from ultra-liberal hollywood bigwigs.

    Ptooie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    15 million in a single night at a hollywood fundraiser... there's not money like that in many places on the planet..


    Sure there is.
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    did any of you ever stop to think that just maybe.. maybe! there are some gay people who don't require the title of "married" to be happy? and just MAYBE! they are concerned with more important things like paying their bills and having the individual freedom to follow their dreams?

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    Sure there is.
    please Wells! clarify that for us regular folk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    did any of you ever stop to think that just maybe.. maybe! there are some gay people who don't require the title of "married" to be happy? and just MAYBE! they are concerned with more important things like paying their bills and having the individual freedom to follow their dreams?
    lol at " having the individual freedom to follow their dreams" as a reason gay people should vote for the GOP. Please tell me you didn't write that with a straight face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Dude comes down every few months to fuck up traffic and take money from ultra-liberal hollywood bigwigs.

    Ptooie!
    yeah he does the same thing up here in Seattle with a few.. umm.. large corporations based out of the Seattle area.. I could have gotten a picture with him for only $35,800!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    lol at " having the individual freedom to follow their dreams" as a reason gay people should vote for the GOP. Please tell me you didn't write that with a straight face.
    umm.. it's true.. we have Obama who thinks "The Life of Julia" is how everyone should exist.. and we have Romney who thinks people should be able to do things on their own..

    me personally.. I don't think gay people are stupid dependents who couldn't tie their shoes without government assistance..

    P.S. Wells.. explain your photo.. I want to know what the relevance is to Obama receiving 15 million dollars in campaign funds from private citizens..
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    I'm curious what world you live in where the GOP stands up for the anything of gay people. Their candidate just spoke at the commencement for a university run by people who think gay people caused 9/11 for fuck's sake. When they don't even defend their right to equal legal protection they have no right to claim they're defending their right to "follow their dreams".

    Wells.. explain your photo
    its wallstreet broksi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    I'm curious what world you live in where the GOP stands up for the anything of gay people. Their candidate just spoke at the commencement for a university run by people who think gay people caused 9/11 for fuck's sake. When they don't even defend their right to equal legal protection they have no right to claim they're defending their right to "follow their dreams".


    its wallstreet broksi.
    what the hell are you even talking about Wells?

    see the GOP thinks all PEOPLE should be treated as equals.. so yes.. we stand up for the right of gay people to be treated just like everyone else! it the Democrats who treat gays as if they are some pathetic sub-human class that needs constant special attention to protect them from the world..
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    see the GOP thinks all PEOPLE should be treated as equals.. so yes.. we stand up for the right of gay people to be treated just like everyone else!
    Unless they're trying to get married apparently.

    Or work for a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Unless they're trying to get married apparently.

    Or work for a living.
    people treated equal.. not relationships.. relationships are not people.. they are relationships.. and that's a bipartisan viewpoint my furry little friend..

    and please give me an example of how GOP in any way shape or form prevents gays from working..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    see the GOP thinks all PEOPLE should be treated as equals.. so yes.. we stand up for the right of gay people to be treated just like everyone else! it the Democrats who treat gays as if they are some pathetic sub-human class that needs constant special attention to protect them from the world..
    You didn't seriously type that out as if it was true, right? That's some serious cognitive dissonance.

    There are laws on the books keeping gay people from being equal, being pushed by the GOP. This isn't some affirmative action nonsense that libertarians profess about the civil rights act. We are currently in the era of Jim Crow Lite for gay people across this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    You didn't seriously type that out as if it was true, right? That's some serious cognitive dissonance.

    There are laws on the books keeping gay people from being equal, being pushed by the GOP. This isn't some affirmative action nonsense that libertarians profess about the civil rights act. We are currently in the era of Jim Crow Lite for gay people across this country.
    ok I'm sorry.. but gays are not oppressed because they can't have the title of "married"

    comparing what gays are dealing with to what black people had to deal with is just pathetic.. it's so far off from reality it's sad.. I'm sorry.. but you should be emabarrased to even try to make that comparison..

    remember.. it was the GOP that wrote most of the civil rights laws and they were shot down over and over again until LBJ finally decided he needed the votes..

    also remember that it was the GOP that gave gays a marriage equivalency that was recognized by the federal government should states choose to adopt it.. please.. get your facts right..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    people treated equal.. not relationships.. relationships are not people.. they are relationships.. and that's a bipartisan viewpoint my furry little friend..
    How cute. Why can you go marry a person of the opposite sex with ease, but not a person of the same sex? Sounds like people not being treated equal to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    and please give me an example of how GOP in any way shape or form prevents gays from working..
    It's perfectly legal in 28 states to discriminate based on sexual preference. Some links for you.

    http://lorah-delaney.suite101.com/fi...states-a153800

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_ri...tes#Employment
    This one has a pretty chart. The colored ones are the ones that have certain bans on discrimination. The rest, none on the books(legal to discriminate).


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    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    ok I'm sorry.. but gays are not oppressed because they can't have the title of "married"
    Dude, this isn't just about "married". They have laws preventing them from adopting, or even getting civil unions. Even more states have laws that don't even recognize ones that were married/civil union'ed.

    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    comparing what gays are dealing with to what black people had to deal with is just pathetic.. it's so far off from reality it's sad.. I'm sorry.. but you should be emabarrased to even try to make that comparison..
    It's why I said Jim Crow Lite. Calm down. Still doesn't mean it's not true. Only difference is we're not lynching and beating them every day in the streets.

    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    remember.. it was the GOP that wrote most of the civil rights laws and they were shot down over and over again until LBJ finally decided he needed the votes..
    GOP of 1960s =/= GOP of today. The majority of like-minded people opposing civil rights are now sitting squarely in the GOP. See: Southern Strategy.


    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    also remember that it was the GOP that gave gays a marriage equivalency that was recognized by the federal government should states choose to adopt it.. please.. get your facts right..
    No, I don't remember. Please enlighten me on this "marriage equivalency". Can I call it "separate but equal"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    How cute. Why can you go marry a person of the opposite sex with ease, but not a person of the same sex? Sounds like people not being treated equal to me.



    It's perfectly legal in 28 states to discriminate based on sexual preference. Some links for you.

    http://lorah-delaney.suite101.com/fi...states-a153800

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_ri...tes#Employment
    This one has a pretty chart. The colored ones are the ones that have certain bans on discrimination. The rest, none on the books(legal to discriminate).
    wait.. so states that don't have special laws put into place that provide affirmative action to gays.. are discriminating against gays? that's kinda backwards don't you think?

    and until gay people can CREATE children.. gay couples are inferior to heterosexual couples.. mind you the inferiority ONLY applies to the relationship.. not the two individuals..

    Infracted
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    wait.. so states that don't have special laws put into place that provide affirmative action to gays.. are discriminating against gays? that's kinda backwards don't you think?
    Take the time and read my links, please. Gay people can be, and are fired for being gay. You, a straight man(I assume?), can be fired for being straight. It's not affirmative action, it's anti-discrimination. Just like the civil rights act made it so you can't fire someone for being black. And you tried to excoriate me for evoking the civil rights and the plight of black people. /sigh

    Quote Originally Posted by ishootblanks View Post
    and until gay people can CREATE children.. gay couples are inferior to heterosexual couples.. mind you the inferiority ONLY applies to the relationship.. not the two individuals..
    What does this even mean, and how does that apply to anything? You just said the GOP wants people to be equal, but you just said they're inferior? Make up your damn mind.

    EDIT - just so you're aware, my two lesbian neighbors created children. Twin girls, cute as hell. I guess we should consider a straight couple with an infertile husband an "inferior" couple.
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