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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Sure. But this is a perfect example of American society bending over backwards for the christian right. Pacifists don't get to keep their tax dollars from going to war. Environmentalists don't get to avoid tax money going to oil companies. But if you think God hates abortions you get to make sure there is zero chance your ridiculously small share of the national revenue isn't going to abortions.

    We make all kinds of exceptions for religions/religious institutions all over the place. It's not just a Christian thing, as you seem to think. Ask a Muslim if they're in favor of abortions.


    Last time I checked, Pacifism or Environmentalism wasn't a religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    Have you ever been to the MN state fair? Trust me, if you want meat n potatoes, you will get it in MN.
    How many barbecue places do you have up there?

    Here in Alabama, we have at least 4 barbecue restaurants on every block. Cheap, tasty, and totally unhealthy. Fuck the last part of that sentence.

    EDIT - Never been to MN. Too damn cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erenax View Post
    We make all kinds of exceptions for religions/religious institutions all over the place. It's not just a Christian thing, as you seem to think. Ask a Muslim if they're in favor of abortions.


    Last time I checked, Pacifism or Environmentalism wasn't a religion.
    The way PETA carries on you'd be surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    So what if you are on Birth Control but it does not work, and you can't currently care for a child? Is that a 'good reason' for a tax-payer funded abortion?

    No. /tenchar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erenax View Post
    We make all kinds of exceptions for religions/religious institutions all over the place. It's not just a Christian thing, as you seem to think. Ask a Muslim if they're in favor of abortions.
    Let's be honest, they don't have the power the christian right does. If it was just the muslim population wanting the Hyde provisions they would never survive.

    Last time I checked, Pacifism or Environmentalism wasn't a religion.
    You don't see how someone with a moral or religious view against abortion would want to not pay for it?
    You yourself put up moral reasons as an argument against tax payer funded abortions. If I view war or pollution as immoral isn't it the same thing?
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    No. /tenchar.
    This is incredibly impractical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    How many barbecue places do you have up there?

    Here in Alabama, we have at least 4 barbecue restaurants on every block. Cheap, tasty, and totally unhealthy. Fuck the last part of that sentence.

    EDIT - Never been to MN. Too damn cold.
    All over the place. I used to stop off at Rudolphs on the way home from work for a couple glasses of beer and a plate of ribs almost every day.

    We also have the worlds biggest distributor of Jameson (in actual drinks; not bottles) at The Local. We should be a bunch of fat, drunk, fucks, but I don't know why we aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erenax View Post
    No. /tenchar.
    The money saved on publicly funding abortions verus paying for foster care would be astronomical.
    Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    All over the place. I used to stop off at Rudolphs on the way home from work for a couple glasses of beer and a plate of ribs almost every day.

    We also have the worlds biggest distributor of Jameson (in actual drinks; not bottles) at The Local. We should be a bunch of fat, drunk, fucks, but I don't know why we aren't.
    Have I mentioned butter and grease?

    Honestly I don't know then. I figured barbecue was only big down here. We have contests every weekend all over the place just to see who cooks the best BBQ. Then eat it. Then do it again the next weekend.

    I'd go the "we're all lazy and live off the government dole" but that wouldn't jive with the political climate down here, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    The money saved on publicly funding abortions verus paying for foster care would be astronomical.
    To say nothing of tertiary costs of unwanted pregnancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    The money saved on publicly funding abortions verus paying for foster care would be astronomical.
    To be fair, there's always adoption. I agree with Wells though, it's impractical to force the mother to term if she used birth control and it failed, and wasn't able to care for it, etc. In principle though, I agree with Erenax. Reality trumps principle, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    Have I mentioned butter and grease?

    Honestly I don't know then. I figured barbecue was only big down here. We have contests every weekend all over the place just to see who cooks the best BBQ. Then eat it. Then do it again the next weekend.

    I'd go the "we're all lazy and live off the government dole" but that wouldn't jive with the political climate down here, haha.
    Whereas we have the polar bear clubs, where you cut the ice off the top of a lake and jump in! (For charity).

    We eat terrible, terrible food. Butter and Grease and Deep Frying is huge up here too. BBQ's every weekend in the summer, and sitting around watching tv/movies with your friends eating horrible food in the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    If I view war or pollution as immoral isn't it the same thing?

    If war were a state and not a federal issue, sure, but it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    Reality trumps principle, though.
    I always like to think so.
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    If war were a state and not a federal issue, sure, but it's not.
    You're really doing your best to avoid the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    Whereas we have the polar bear clubs, where you cut the ice off the top of a lake and jump in! (For charity).

    We eat terrible, terrible food. Butter and Grease and Deep Frying is huge up here too. BBQ's every weekend in the summer, and sitting around watching tv/movies with your friends eating horrible food in the winter.
    I think it's about time you and I start doing some case studies and figure this fucker out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    Have I mentioned butter and grease?

    Honestly I don't know then. I figured barbecue was only big down here. We have contests every weekend all over the place just to see who cooks the best BBQ. Then eat it. Then do it again the next weekend.

    I'd go the "we're all lazy and live off the government dole" but that wouldn't jive with the political climate down here, haha.

    As someone who has spent lots of time in Texas and Minnesota, the BBQ up here doesn't even come close to the BBQ down south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    You're really doing your best to avoid the point.

    You mean you have a point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    I think it's about time you and I start doing some case studies and figure this fucker out.
    I'm out on the east coast now. Philly cheesesteaks are meh. Good but not great, even from the two warring legends.

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    You mean you have a point?
    Right, have a nice night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    I think it's about time you and I start doing some case studies and figure this fucker out.
    I think it's the sticks. Yeah. Pretty sure if you fry something with a stick in it, it's not unhealthy.

    That's my story. Sticking to it. (see what I did?)
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    cheese fondue

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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    I think it's the sticks. Yeah. Pretty sure if you fry something with a stick in it, it's not unhealthy.

    That's my story. Sticking to it. (see what I did?)
    So you are saying the deep fried pasta is healthy if it is on a stick? I'm intrigued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    So you are saying the deep fried pasta is healthy if it is on a stick? I'm intrigued.
    I said, that's my story. Sticking to it!
    Quote Originally Posted by Gheld View Post
    If anybody is thinking of buying me a gift I would much rather they just donate that money to charity instead.
    cheese fondue

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