1. #11261
    Quote Originally Posted by Willeonge View Post
    Troll account seems trollish.
    Claims he's a libertarian and wants to criminalize weed.
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  2. #11262
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Claims he's a libertarian and wants to criminalize weed.
    I just want to keep children protected. I am more of a conservative actually, but I do have respect for libertarianism, just don't agree with them on everything.

  3. #11263
    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    I just want to keep children protected. I am more of a conservative actually, but I do have respect for libertarianism, just don't agree with them on everything.
    Weed isn't out to get your children.
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  4. #11264
    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    I just want to keep children protected. I am more of a conservative actually, but I do have respect for libertarianism, just don't agree with them on everything.
    Because something being legal clearly means we will immediately sell it to five year olds.

    Get real. If pot gets legalized it will be under similar restrictions to alcohol or cigarettes.

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  5. #11265
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysia View Post
    Because something being legal clearly means we will immediately sell it to five year olds.

    Get real. If pot gets legalized it will be under similar restrictions to alcohol or cigarettes.
    I don't look forward to a day where children are getting high and living off the government. People need to be punished for breaking the law is why I support locking up drug addicts in prison. Some hard time is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysia View Post
    If pot gets legalized it will be under similar restrictions to alcohol or cigarettes.

    Hopefully closer to cigarettes than alcohol. You can kill people for your country, but better not have a drink before you're 21!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    I just want to keep children protected. I am more of a conservative actually, but I do have respect for libertarianism, just don't agree with them on everything.
    Should we ban alcohol and tobacco as well?

  8. #11268
    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    I don't look forward to a day where children are getting high and living off the government. People need to be punished for breaking the law is why I support locking up drug addicts in prison. Some hard time is needed.
    I don't know what kind of nice suburban paradise you grew up in but kids are getting high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    Should we ban alcohol and tobacco as well?
    And that will stop em from getting drunk and smoking.
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  10. #11270
    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    Should we ban alcohol and tobacco as well?
    Absolutely not. The Tobacco and alcohol industry supports millions of jobs, a ban would cripple the economy.

  11. #11271
    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    Absolutely not. The Tobacco and alcohol industry supports millions of jobs, a ban would cripple the economy.
    And legalizing weed would grow the economy. Or do you not know how much money there is in weed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    Absolutely not. The Tobacco and alcohol industry supports millions of jobs, a ban would cripple the economy.
    And they keep my profession going with all the acute and chronic health issues they inflict on massive portions of the population!
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  13. #11273
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    And legalizing weed would grow the economy. Or do you not know how much money there is in weed?
    Well I do not think the harm of legalizing pot will outweigh the benefits.

  14. #11274
    Yeah I'm actually curious now if the cigarette industry is a net positive for the economy after counting the cost of illness and premature death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    Well I do not think the harm of legalizing pot will outweigh the benefits.
    What harm?
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  15. #11275
    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalistchampion View Post
    I just want to keep children protected. I am more of a conservative actually, but I do have respect for libertarianism, just don't agree with them on everything.
    A libertarian turns out to be a conservative in disguise? Wow that's a shock.

  16. #11276
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Yeah I'm actually curious now if the cigarette industry is a net positive for the economy after counting the cost of illness and premature death.



    What harm?
    A study funded by Ronald Reagan concluded that weed kills brain cells and increases the risk of Alzheimer's disease.
    We already have enough people suffering from the disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    A libertarian turns out to be a conservative in disguise? Wow that's a shock.
    No you guys accused me for being a libertarian by miss-reading what I typed. Always was somewhat conservative.

  17. #11277
    A study funded by Ronald Reagan concluded that weed kills brain cells and increases the risk of Alzheimer's disease.
    That was also 30 years ago and Reagan pushed the racist crack laws so I really don't give a shit what his opinions on drugs are.
    No you guys accused me for being a libertarian by miss-reading what I typed. Always was somewhat conservative.
    In other words, libertarian when it benefits you and conservative when it comes to other people.
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    The awful shit that smoking and drinking do to people is worth the jobs and money, but the relatively harmless effects of marijuana aren't? Not very economically conservative now, are we?

    This is a rather large problem I have with the GOP. Ideally, for me at least, the government would be socially liberal, economically conservative. Not so much to the point of deregulation and bare bones taxes, but I feel that a government should spend within its boundaries.

    The problem is, neither party really seems to be up for this. The Democrats are at least socially liberal, and their fiscal liberalism is true to what they present. The GOP, on the other hand, has neither. Socially conservative, fiscally liberal, it is the least ideal form of government in my eyes. Sure, they are for deregulation and lower taxes, but they sure as hell aren't willing to reduce spending. Their stubborn approach to the defense budget and inability to recognize that more taxes isn't always a bad thing - at least in this election cycle - tells me that no, they really aren't interested in getting us out of this mess.

    This is why I am absolutely repulsed by the GOP. Their attitude towards progressive social stances and the lie of fiscal conservatism that they hide behind makes me question their motives. The push against the legalization of marijuana despite the potential revenue that outweighs the minute dangers that it would pose is yet another example of how the GOP is afraid of fiscal conservatism.

  19. #11279
    I take issue with the notion that the GOP is fiscally liberal. They're fiscally corporatist. How they spend money is as important as spending it here.

    They're not spending money on social welfare or development.

    Nor are they really for deregulation so much as they're for removing controls and restrictions. They're for corporate profit. They have no problem with regulation and government control when their donors are making money on it. Like how you can't get drugs from Canada or how Medicare can't bargain on drug prices.
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    I'll chalk this one up to my lack of knowledge on the topic.

    Man, I've been wrong a lot lately.

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