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    Already a couple conservative bloggers and pundits are hedging in the event of a Obama victory.

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...6-C29F615E0AF3
    If President Barack Obama wins, he will be the popular choice of Hispanics, African-Americans, single women and highly educated urban whites. That’s what the polling has consistently shown in the final days of the campaign. It looks more likely than not that he will lose independents, and it’s possible he will get a lower percentage of white voters than George W. Bush got of Hispanic voters in 2000.

    A broad mandate this is not.
    Actually seeing a lot of this kind of rhetoric.
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  2. #12262
    I'll agree with them that Obama is surely not the choice of ignorant, rural, white voters. That doesn't seem like something to be ashamed of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Already a couple conservative bloggers and pundits are hedging in the event of a Obama victory.
    Actually seeing a lot of this kind of rhetoric.
    So Mitt Romney is the candidate for uneducated whites, the ultra rich, and that is literally about it as far as polling shows. Good to know lol. The "not a broad mandate" portion is pretty funny. Obama is supported by a vast array of Americans whereas Romney is literally only winning non-secondary educated whites, yet somehow an Obama victory is not a broad win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conscript View Post
    So Mitt Romney is the candidate for uneducated whites, the ultra rich, and that is literally about it as far as polling shows. Good to know lol. The "not a broad mandate" portion is pretty funny. Obama is supported by a vast array of Americans whereas Romney is literally only winning non-secondary educated whites, yet somehow an Obama victory is not a broad win.
    If you view the world through the lens that black people and women shouldn't be voting anyway, you wouldn't consider it a broad mandate either...

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    I'm unaware of what is meant by "broad mandate". Could somebody explain this for me?

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    I laughed incredibly hard at this. Best response ever whether intentional or not.
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    Its a silly notion. Essentially it means that enough people back you that America is telling you to do whatever you want. Bush talked about it a lot after his reelection.
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    So, if enough people elect you, you can do whatever you want even if it runs contrary to why people elected you in the first place? Not sure why anybody would want a president to operate under that mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    So, if enough people elect you, you can do whatever you want even if it runs contrary to why people elected you in the first place? Not sure why anybody would want a president to operate under that mentality.
    If you get a chance, read Bob Altemeyer's book on authoritarian personalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    So, if enough people elect you, you can do whatever you want even if it runs contrary to why people elected you in the first place? Not sure why anybody would want a president to operate under that mentality.
    The idea is that since the president was elected by a majority, then clearly the majority supports whatever the president wants to do.

    Until the president goes against what they want, then suddenly it's a dictatorial menace from moon nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    I'm unaware of what is meant by "broad mandate". Could somebody explain this for me?
    In political terms, a "mandate" is generally when a president wins by what is often regarded as a "landslide", usually 60% of the electorate and significantly more than 270 EC votes. Basically it means that this guy has sooooo much support, that the people have given him permission to swing full bore with his positions.

    In this case however, it simply means "we don't like this guy and we don't regard his level of support as legitimate." Basically just another claim that people who vote for Obama are idiots and therefore don't deserve the right to vote, subsequently, any votes they do make don't mean squat. It's politicking as usual. I have no doubt that even if Obama won 99% of the popular and 500+ EC votes, Republicans still would think he doesn't have enough support to make his positions legitimate.
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    I get a good laugh reading these post as you Democrats grasp ay any glimmer of hope. Linking polls that are statistical tie trying to convince your self that Obama isn't going too lose, but knowing these polls all have over sampled democrats by as much as 8 points. Take for example the latest CNN polls has Obama and Romney tied at 48-48 with a +11 democrat sample this is so absurd even the 2008 election it was only a +3 democrat advantage with voter turn out.
    So keep huddling together and convincing each other you got this. You are going to be pretty upset come Wednesday morning and looking for blood out of these pollsters who have mislead you for so long but you will only have your self to blame for being so gullible to believe their bias hype and not reading the fine print showing how much they over sampled Democrats.
    So I will see you guys on Wednesday at least the ones who didn't jump out the window

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  14. #12274
    So when the polling pans out to be more or less true like it usually is in aggregate will you admit you're wrong and don't know the first thing about polling?
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    Is the northeast coast even voting by Tuesday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    Is the northeast coast even voting by Tuesday?
    I've heard that voting could be delayed by as long as 10 days, so we could be waiting for the results for a while.

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    Is the northeast coast even voting by Tuesday?
    Yes. Congress would have to agree to change the date of the vote and good luck there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    I've heard that voting could be delayed by as long as 10 days, so we could be waiting for the results for a while.
    Technically yes, but its not like these are battleground states by and large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    I've heard that voting could be delayed by as long as 10 days, so we could be waiting for the results for a while.
    Do you have a source for this?

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